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[maxk] 20/10/2019 11:05

Brexit deal latest news: Labour will table amendment for second referendum, Sir Keir Starmer says



Danielle Sheridan, political correspondent
20 OCTOBER 2019 • 11:56AM



Sir Keir Starmer has said Labour will back an “inevitable” second referendum.

The Shadow Brexit Secretary said whatever deal gets through it should be subject to a referendum.

"We have already voted, I think, three times as a party for a second referendum with a three-line whip behind it,” he said.

[grahamite2] 20/10/2019 11:04

Are you saying boris/cummings thought be sending the letter unsigned it would somehow not be considered?

That's exactly what I'm saying, Pierre. Otherwise the whole exercise is as childish and pointless as Alphorn has said.

An unsigned letter could be the work of one of the secretaries, hell, one of the cleaners at Downing Street.

[minerve 2] 20/10/2019 11:03

nemesis6

😎

[alphorn] 20/10/2019 10:58

PO #642. Well you have beaten everybody. Clown of the year award to you. Well done.

[nemesis6] 20/10/2019 10:58

im a million miles form being your "mate" you vile little worm and as for being intellectually challenged..your pathetic opinions and arguments show you definitely are. Now toddle on back to your mews house.

[poikka] 20/10/2019 10:57

Yes, a lot of MPs will lose their jobs come the day. Amusingly, although many of them will find employment giving talks to businesses and institutions looking for a way of wasting money, and/or become non-execs, there aren't that many opportunities available to so many lol, lol, lol.

[pierre oreilly] 20/10/2019 10:57

I'm still not sure what you're saying graham.

Are you saying boris/cummings thought be sending the letter unsigned it would somehow not be considered?

I think boris and cummings have more nous than that!

My view is he didn't sign it (well knowing it makes no difference whether he did or didn't) simply because he didn't agree with it.

[minerve 2] 20/10/2019 10:54

nemesis

You are so intellectually challenged you need protecting from yourself mate.

[1carus] 20/10/2019 10:50

The eu will wait until the outcome of the vote on Tuesday to respond. I think Boris and the eu will find something to offer the dup. The withdrawal treaty will be passed. At that point it will be the deal if all goes well or no deal, which I think would not be as good. Remain at that point will be taken off the table. Additionally corbyn should call an election. There are many battles lost and won in a war, but remember the victor gets to write the history. Boris will either go down as a failure or it will be written as though the remain lobby failed to prevent brexit.

[gotnorolex] 20/10/2019 10:50

Minerve 2 Just why do you want to prolong the agony?

[minerve 2] 20/10/2019 10:49

nemesis6

You are entitled to your opinion as I am mine. ;)

[gotnorolex] 20/10/2019 10:45

The only plotters here are the one's who'll go to any lengths to scupper any deal!

[minerve 2] 20/10/2019 10:40

Of course the EU could just play like Boris and ignore the 2nd and 3rd letter. In reality they will look to UK parliament for direction, not one man who has lost the plot.

[minerve 2] 20/10/2019 10:38

Rubbish. Sour grapes.

[grahamite2] 20/10/2019 10:37

Alphorn, Pierre - interesting points but all made academic by Tusk's decision. The EU is treating the request as having been made which means Cummings's ploy has failed.

[grahamite2] 20/10/2019 10:35

Minerve 2 20 Oct '19 - 11:29 - 279648 of 279648

The fact that one takes days to be born and the other maybe years is irrelevant.

Of course it's relevant, for the reasons I have stated. It is supremely relevant and means the constitution as we knew it has been destroyed.

For you to deny this means you're either lying through your teeth or you're a mental defective.

[minerve 2] 20/10/2019 10:29

grahamite2

"This is completely untrue. For a bill to go through 3 readings in the Commons and 3 readings in the Lords is extremely unusual and normally only happens in time of war, and when there is effectively unanimity in Parliament."

They all originate in Parliament, they all have the same history. The fact that one takes days to be born and the other maybe years is irrelevant.

"This precedent is one of the most evil results of the present situation. It means there's nothing to stop Corbyn, or any other extremist, putting through his entire manifesto in a week."

Says the idiot defending a government who are pushing through the manifesto of Boris and wanting us to live in a future determined by a handful of far-right.

Laughable.

[pierre oreilly] 20/10/2019 10:26

Graham, no it's none of those things, which are contractual instructions (and even those don't have to be signed or even written down at all!).

There's no hint of anything contractual with boris or our government requesting an extension. Even the legal test of 'a meeting of the minds' doesn't apply. for example, if they grant an extension (and therefore junker will have broken his word), there's no obligation for us to then go ahead and extend (and before the remoaners pounce, I'm not saying anyone is proposing that).

[xxxxxy] 20/10/2019 10:23

The Great Silent Majority waits to give its verdict on the QUISLINGS LEAVE AND WTO

[gotnorolex] 20/10/2019 10:22

Boris concentrated the Brusseliers minds to wrap up the whining, bickering of the divorce settlement! We're leaving, having shaken off three years of clinging on to our ankles, now that we're free, you get some home brewed trumped up law to keep us kettled in, only to get seven bells knocked out of us again!

[xxxxxy] 20/10/2019 10:22

Love BorisLove JRMStanding up for Freedom and Democracy.Love and Peace.LEAVE and WTO