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[freddie01] 14/9/2019 17:17

Make no mistake this was a great thread until the day Minerve turned up. There really is either something wrong with him.

If you don't filter him,you're part of the problem because you give him the oxygen he craves.

[k38] 14/9/2019 14:39

I said to him thesame thing sometime ago.. British..? I am not so sure. No one hates his country so much as M2 .


Why the f# he does not move to Germany if he is so fond of them.

[stonedyou] 14/9/2019 14:22

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I think there may well be a legal strategy - I’ve no idea what it is - but I think

that may well be the way through, to effectively legally kill off the Benn Bill

and then find a way of coming back to the negotiations with a real sword of

Damocles over them, the Europeans, rather than over us


David Davis

[tygarreg] 14/9/2019 13:14

Leavers don't want to spend one billion a month or 250 million a week net on membership of a club that allows us to buy more off them than they buy off us. And then to be governed by the same people. Why Minerve would you or any of your remain friends want to continue such an arrangement?

[gotnorolex] 14/9/2019 10:34

So you have best claim to offal? LOL!

[minerve 2] 14/9/2019 10:28

The findings, analysed for the Financial Times, raise further concern over the state of England’s privatised water network, following record leaks and heightened river pollution levels that have led the opposition Labour party to draw up plans to renationalise the industry.

Britain was known as the “dirty man of Europe” for decades because of the raw sewage that poured on to its beaches.

Although the government says the water quality has improved, Britain’s bathing waters still rank 24th out of 30 European countries, according to a European Environment Agency report based on 2017 data.



- FT


Time to nationalise this private cancer.

[minerve 2] 14/9/2019 10:14

No thanks.

Brexiters can get involved in some of their favourite games like Russian Roulette if they choose to.

Remainers are more intelligent.

[gotnorolex] 14/9/2019 10:10

We are reduced to an indecisive nation and in a profound mess!
Any way we go will leave us with a king size hangover!
We've run out of petals on the "we're in" "we're out" daisy!
Can't decide which side's up on the flip of a coin!
We need to settle it now once and for all with the Russian roulette revolver!

[xxxxxy] 14/9/2019 06:16

Parliament, government and the courts
By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: SEPTEMBER 14, 2019
We live in a relatively free society with some separation of powers. The common law evolves through court decisions by Judges. Parliament can at any stage seek to change the law by an Act of Parliament. Statute law commands respect from the courts and can override common law but the courts do not always “obey” it. They interpret it. Sometimes they interpret it in ways that Parliament dislikes and regards as a distortion. In such cases Parliament can legislate again to give a clearer instruction to the courts.

All our current domestic law and all the powers of government, Parliament and courts are subordinate to the EU Treaties, EU regulations and directives and to judgements of the European Court of Justice. An EU law can override or strike down an Act of Parliament or a judgement of our Supreme Court if appealed to the ECJ. That was the kernel of the referendum debate for many people, with many Leave voters wishing to restore our domestic rule of law without EU supremacy.

The courts reserve the right to query or even ignore Statute law if they think an Act of Parliament is unclear, or violates human rights or some other superior law or legal principle. A law has to be clear, fair to all and enforceable. An Act of Parliament saying the sun must shine tomorrow, or saying 20 year olds must get up at 6 am or saying people whose surnames begin with an A cannot be allowed a driving licence would all likely to be void for good reasons.

The courts traditionally have not interfered in matters of Crown or government prerogative or high politics. They have tended to take the view if asked that Parliament has the necessary power to curb or remove a Prime Minister who uses Crown prerogative in ways that annoy MPs, who in turn will be influenced by public opinion on these issues. If a PM ceases to please Parliament can remove him or her by a No Confidence vote.

The courts have also taken the view that where an issue is hotly contested between parties and factions within the public, it is best to let politics and Parliament sort out the disagreement. It would be unacceptable if the UK’s departure or staying in the EU fell in the end to be decided by a judgement in the Supreme Court. Of course the Supreme Court needs from time to time to find against the government in judicial review cases where litigants are challenging the way government has made a decision or enforced a policy. That is not the same as the Supreme Court presuming to itself the unique power to settle the biggest political question of the decade. However big a mess Parliament has made of it, this needs to resolved by Parliament. If Parliament finds a way to get us to remain in the EU after October 31, then it will fall to the electorate to remove from office those who have failed to implement the will of the people.

[k38] 13/9/2019 22:38

Cameron to his masters in Brussels. "I am sorry. I failed you"

[stonedyou] 13/9/2019 21:48

Blair has already received £800,000 in pension money DESPITE only turning 65 on Sunday

Tony Blair has already pocketed more than £800,000 of taxpayer’s money pension, despite only being an OAP since last weekend.




Mr Blair is thought to have been worth of more than £60million in 2015, including a portfolio of ten homes across England.

Labour figures were keen to downplay the size of the former PM’s pay packet.

A spokeswoman for the former Labour leader said: “Tony Blair receives what is given to former Prime Ministers in exactly the same way as his predecessors.”

However, one public interest charity wasn’t impressed with the revelation.



James Price, Campaign Manager at the TaxPayer’s Alliance said: “Politicians have voted themselves incredibly generous pensions that most of us could only ever dream of, and Mr Blair is no exception.

“The amount of money Mr Blair has allegedly been making since leaving office may make taxpayers more annoyed that they are being taxed to further add to his wealth.”

Mr Blair has been vocal in his opposition to Brexit, and told the Mirror “the Brexit thing has given me a direct motivation to get more involved with politics.”

[stonedyou] 13/9/2019 21:40

Daily allowance

In addition to their salary, the European Parliament pays all MEPs a flat rate of €320 for each day they are present in Brussels or Strasbourg on official business.

This money is meant to cover accommodation, meals and other "related costs". No receipts are needed as it is a lump-sum payment - but it's paid only if MEPs sign an official register.

[stonedyou] 13/9/2019 21:23

Salaries and pensions




How much do MEPs get paid?

Under the single statute for Members in force since July 2009, MEPs all receive the same salary.

The monthly pre-tax salary of MEPs, under the single statute, is € 8.757,70 (as of July 2018). This salary comes from Parliament's budget. All MEPs pay EU tax and insurance contributions, after which the salary is € 6.824,85. In addition, most EU countries oblige their MEPs to pay an additional national tax to their home country. The final salary (salary after taxes) for an individual Member therefore depends on the taxation rules in the Member's home country. The MEPs' basic salary is set at 38.5% of the basic salary of a judge at the European Court of Justice, so MEPs do not, and cannot, decide on their own salary.

There are a few exceptions to the single statute: MEPs who held a mandate in Parliament before the 2009 elections could opt to keep the previous national system for salary (in which they were paid the same amount as national MPs), transitional allowance and pensions, for the entire duration of their membership of the European Parliament.


Are MEPs entitled to a pension? How much is it?


Members are entitled to an old-age pension from the age of 63. The pension equals 3.5% of the salary for each full year’s exercise of a mandate but not more than 70% in total. The cost of these pensions is met from the European Union budget. An additional pension scheme, introduced for MEPs in 1989, was closed to new members from July 2009 and is being phased out.