Legal & General Share Discussion Threads

[gurunostradamus] 17/1/2024 16:16

I would wait for a few weeks, there maybe a correction over this week and next week and there is a possibility that you may be able to pick some up at around 230p levels? Dyor

[jubberjim] 17/1/2024 16:14

Long time until ex dividend

Just be patient

Better dividends all being well elsewhere

The only thing in lgen favour is reliability unlike others in the same category

Dire markets

[marktime1231] 17/1/2024 16:09

If you want to buy in at 235p wait until the price hits 235p and then buy.

Good luck.

Free advice also available about selling at a target price too, if you ever need a pointer.

[xongkudu] 17/1/2024 15:58

I’m looking for an entry point here. Would prefer 235 but as it’s for the dividend I may as well pull the trigger.

Any views?

[cwa1] 17/1/2024 12:02

UBS raises Legal & General price target to 260 (235) pence - 'neutral'

[speedsgh] 17/1/2024 11:53

Legal & General declares 2023 the landmark year for annuities - evidenced by sales hitting all-time high -

Customers seek certainty amidst economic volatility of recent years.

~ Demand for annuities skyrocketed in 2023 with Legal & General Retail announcing record-breaking sales of £1.43bn
~ Sales were up 50% on the previous year
~ Sales of fixed-term annuities also up - doubling as retirees seek to counter economic uncertainty

[continues]

[jubberjim] 17/1/2024 10:17

CWA

I might disagree with you some times and fail to understand the plethora of facts and statements but I will grant you one thing.

You do have impeccable manners

Have a good one

When in doubt do nothing.

I will carry on collecting splinters for time being

Good luck everyone

[tornado12] 17/1/2024 09:04

Seems the markets bet on a near term interest rate cut are off the mark and hence a further drop today. Inflation remains elevated and the issues in middle east for sure giving potential fuel to the inflation fire. A lot of goods now abandoning the Suez canal and going the long route, including fuel. Crazy world we live in without stability and security of the future. On the bright side we may have chance to re-invest our divis at better than expected prices. Keep the faith IMHO GLA

[actybod] 17/1/2024 08:55

Whilst the lta is being removed three new allowances effectively will do the same thing. Labour have said it wouldn't now be high up on the agenda to reverse.

[netcurtains] 17/1/2024 08:49

BBC blames smokers for LGEN fall this morning.

[cwa1] 17/1/2024 08:09

Market spooked by inflation numbers going, marginally, the wrong way. Direction of travel being the concern I suppose. Expecting a challenging day for most stocks and not just LGEN

[cwa1] 17/1/2024 07:14

TBF Keyno is probably right.

Although the chat on pensions on here is polite, well meaning and sometimes quite informative-it IS stretching the envelope a LITTLE bit for a dedicated Legal and General board!

If I may ask that posters that are interested in pensions dial it back a little and perhaps one of the interested parties could set up a separate, dedicated, thread for discussion on it? I'm more than happy to put a link to it in the header and politely point people in that direction.

Many thanks to all

[keyno] 17/1/2024 01:19

I think this has already been suggested but why not start a specific Pensions thread and take your discussions there? Like many others I am not in the least bit interested in ploughing through umpteen posts on SIPPS etc under the umbrella of LGEN Moderated Thread, though I appreciate many of you are and they are important to you.

So why not throw the chat open to posters who don't look at this board and leave this one to those of us interested in Legal and General? Many thanks.

[pj84] 16/1/2024 23:36

The true answer is none of us know, as the tax rules can change at anytime and have continued to do so over the past decades and will continue to do so in the future and we all have different circumstances.

I have a SIPP an ISA, a company pension which is part final salary and part based on actual salary per year (career average).

My SIPP is from a former final salary scheme, (which wisely or unwisely) I decided to transfer to private pension at a time when it was easier to transfer from a final salary scheme.

One of the issues that concerned me was that the longer I let my SIPP grow the larger the 25% lump sum I could take tax free (whilst also bearing in mind the LTA as my defined benefit pension would also form part of the limit) and that if I eventually took a large tax free sum, I couldn't then reinvest it all in a tax free wrapper in a single year and I have decided to take smaller amounts of my tax free amount so that I can reinvest it into ISA's and any future growth will be tax free (again subject to future tax changes).

Also with the LTA we are in a situation where it is being removed whilst a likely incoming labour government would reinstate it!

So both pensions and ISA's (including previous incarnations) are all good and I will only be able to tell you based on your individual circumstances with hindsight what was the best.

With perfect hindsight we could all have bought Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, Google etc. at the beginning and not have worried about how much tax we paid.

[lippy4] 16/1/2024 15:54

zac

does that 51% include trading shares which i do to make money tax free..

just bought some l&g today as it went down.

[mcunliffe1] 16/1/2024 15:37

zac: NEVER challenge Pierre to a 'math-off' :-)

I understand what you are saying though. I also am now retired and had a Std Life pension from which I drew-down. I also paid the £2,880 into it and hence obtained the automatic £720 boost for the 20% tax addition assumption - even though I was not paying tax. I was self-employed. I would recover that £720 by way of a tax reduction when I was working, earning and paying tax. Once the work ceased and the earning (before the state pension) I changed to a different fund - still with the Std. Life - one that permitted the 20% addition to be added at source.


Now, I have a SIPP having moved away from Std. Life into Interactive Investor. I will consider how to reap the £720 before the year end and will be drawing down once more in March.

[zac0_4] 16/1/2024 15:19

Woodhawk/lippy4 - here’s something to ponder. I’m a basic rate tax payer who’s retired. I have a couple of pensions that I draw down from.

However, I always have a SIPP running that, even though I have no income, I can pay up to £2,880 into each tax year.

So, the comparison between a (albeit) small SIPP and an isa. Suppose I pay £2,880 each year into both. Charges are the same and each year both return 12%. At the end of year 5 I decide to liquidate both.

My isa is tax free and has provided me a nett return over the 5 year period of 42%. My SIPP is subject to tax and, after tax, will have delivered me a nett return of . . . 51%

You do the maths!

[zac0_4] 16/1/2024 15:04

PO - I think you’ll find a lot of the issues you raised in your earlier post no longer apply following the pension reforms in 2014.

I certainly don’t experience any liquidity issues or see charges of near 50% of my pot value!!

[pierre oreilly] 16/1/2024 12:29

The main risk at the time I went down the pep route as opposed to pensions was how long peps/isas would last. And that's my biggest worry still today. But the latest major change was positive for isas - when one kicks he bucket, the spouse can now merge the two isas into one as opposed to one of the isas moving out of the tax haven. It's almost too good to be true.

[woodhawk] 16/1/2024 09:49

Lippy4,

I agree with you. I have a small SIPP but the vast majority of my shares are ISA'd. I'm especially glad I took that route in view the frozen personal allowance and it's drag effect (plus of course no management fees). I reckon I already save at least £10K a year in tax (and rising) compared to the pension route.

[rongetsrich] 16/1/2024 09:01

Duplicate, so deleted.

[spud] 16/1/2024 08:55

IN THE KNOW: Berenberg lifts L&G on rates certainty, dividend outlook

Source: Alliance News
Legal & General offers stellar "dividend prospects" and promising capital generation, analysts at Berenberg said on Monday.

spud

[cwa1] 16/1/2024 08:12

Citigroup raises #LGEN to 254(232) Neutral

[mrthomas] 16/1/2024 07:05

Abdn update 24/01 Results 27/2

From this will get a better idea of dividends for the year but more importantly, I hope what 2024 could be and the views of the new CEO

Assume he says that as new to the position needs to do a review of the business etc

brought below 2,25 last year so if the yield is around 8% that be good but even all that going on in the world hard to predict any more

[lippy4] 15/1/2024 23:00

tax on income was the biggest worry to me and after all these tax rises by the government my decision to have most of my assets in isas has been proven right,i took a income from my private pension so i split my assets with most in shares in isas..