Kier Share Discussion Threads

[ltcm1] 03/9/2020 07:24

JBTD I salute you - I flip it before mega austerity hits.

Don't mean to be rude but buying a £500K btl is very bad from the higher payer tax perspective. It's a very bad use of your money John. A commercial conversion or holiday let would have been a much better option financially. If you don't understand that I fear for you on Kier too.

Next Clive Emson going online in next few days:

hxxps://www.cliveemson.co.uk/future/

[johnbuythedips] 03/9/2020 05:41

2 more weeks until the results.

Meanwhile.
Canterbury Tales
hxxps://www.kentonline.co.uk/canterbury/news/londoners-fuel-huge-house-price-rises-in-kent-233114/

[wallywoo] 02/9/2020 18:16

I reckon that's where he has gone to. Selling fridges to the Eskimos.I am sure the fridges will be just as useful to them, and Kier shares are to a investor!You don't even have a share certificate any more, to decorate the spare room with!

[nomdeplume] 02/9/2020 16:45

Itchy, if Eddy has any sense (and I am sure he has) he wil not respond to that rubbish.

[truthandnumbers] 02/9/2020 16:44

“The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.”
― William Shakespeare

I presume from the name that stupidgit is the wise man and the trolls here, so convinced of their 'wisdom' are in the other category.

Itcm1, you appear to be missing your friend Eddy, calling for him desperately! I noticed that he announced his departure from this investment after the last RNS from Kier. Why exactly do you insist on trolling people here? Just sh1ts and giggles for you?

[ltcm1] 02/9/2020 16:05

Eddy we are at an all time low!!!

Eddy when this was over 100 you were touting this pos as a M_U_L_T_I B_A_G_G_E_R.

Eddy I call a third time for you to explain why you took such a deluded position on 'Corbyn Construction'.

[wallywoo] 02/9/2020 12:41

Well good luck, my experience tells me this has a tiny chance of recovery without destroying equity.Was actually in loss on Saga til Tuesday morning, bgt at 17.1p in June. Traded it before too. Was thinking of cutting losses, so really lucky there. Going much safer with smds.Good luck here, kind of reminds me of Carillion. At this stage the holders were hoping asset sales would save them too. To me this is beyond asset sales.

[johnbuythedips] 02/9/2020 12:34

You seem to 'win' all the time! LOL even with a short from 60p up to £1.50. How do you do it?
I am very straight forward.
I have been long twice KIER and made money.
I am long now for the 3rd time. I got caught on the update. I am offside. I have averaged all the way down. I do own a lot of shares.
I am confident KL will be sold and I am expecting a positive update. The results will be bad although feel this is priced in to the share price The 'possibility' of going to the market for funds remains a 'possibility' and is not a given as you would suggest.
I expect that we WILL be given some clarity this month and the share price will rise.

[wallywoo] 02/9/2020 10:49

Hmm so let's get your trading right Johnbuythelosers. You said your stop loss was 80p, then 58p. What is it now? Come on give us a laugh.

PS made 40 percent profit on Saga yesterday. Sold at 23.88p. you know that is the game?

[johnbuythedips] 02/9/2020 10:42

I’m treading water and loving it.
However - we’ve been here before. Twice. And guess what, we rallied to £1.50 and you miraculously made £100k lol even though in the close before the RNS the following morning you were calling for suspension.
I suggest you spend the time you waste trolling this board on finding your real Mum - you will both be better for it (unless you are rejected again - heavens forbid).

[wallywoo] 02/9/2020 10:27

I thought your stop loss was set at 58p, Johnbuythelosers?


The sale price has been below that all day today. Have you changed your mind? Not very disciplined from a ex professional trader!

[johnbuythedips] 02/9/2020 10:23

Good to see house prices hit all time highs!
I am sure a few of the trolls were mocking my investment in Canterbury (20% and holding). LOL Kent has really benefited from the London exodus too. All commercial property fully let too. Never been better.
Getting frustrated with the KIE share price scuffing along down here. I still think that there will be a positive announcement about KL despite Davies almost single-handedly kiboshing it with the update.
Looking forward to clarity very shortly. Been keeping a close eye on Saga too. Kent based and have some investments in Folkestone. Interesting goings on there.
Personally I still believe this is a gift down here but only for the risk averse. Do your own research of course. Really looking forward to seeing this unfold.

[valueinvestor17] 01/9/2020 10:34

Kier to Deliver £25M Project:

hxxps://steelguru.com/infra/kier-to-deliver-dover-grammar-school-for-boys/562753

[zicopele] 01/9/2020 08:26

Hedge funds closed because Kier is very illiquid. Try trading anything more than 2000 at these levels.

Even a hint of good news and Kier could go to 110p.

[wallywoo] 31/8/2020 17:05

I don't know if hedge funds have a quicker way to get your money once a company goes bust (perhaps shorter since they are hedged against a long position). However, for me when I had a short on with Carillion it was around 18 months. So the money was dormant for that time, and you don't know how long (I think it's normally 6-24 months, though there's no legal Max to liquidate the assets). It annoyed me, was not happy to get hit again, they don't tell you what the likely timescale is.

[auson1] 31/8/2020 13:47

nomdeplume,

I think from memory I asked the question as to why the conviction shorters ( Kuvari and TT ) were closing out here. Wally replied because its too slow/ difficult to get your money from a short when a company goes bust ! Demonstrating a complete lack of understanding of how a short works.

I think there might be 2 or 3 reasons why they have closed and that sure wasn't one of them. Good for a laugh though.

[nomdeplume] 31/8/2020 12:03

I have posted on HYVE, but there are not trolls on there, so I do not have to intervene with the truth. Think about it, Wally. There is no way I would have bought Kier before the price fell. It would not be a punt then, would it? Even if your reason for not shorting Kier were correct, you would double your money in 18 months. I am not sure I believe you. You only tell people of your supposed investments when you can brag about making a profit.

[wallywoo] 31/8/2020 10:02

Seems very weird that you spend soo much time only on this board (with such a small investment, that is worth much less now), you don't post on HYVE ( another company that burns cash with a 95 percent share price fall). Also seems weird that after Carillion you don't think cynics have a important role to play. Companies do go bust, it's important to point out the one's most likely to. Funny these companies are all desperate for share buying demand too.


Anyhow answer is the same as the last time you asked. Have shorted this 6 times over the last 14 months (4 times with significant profit, 2 times stopped out with 8-10 point loss). Currently no position, because I don't short companies for the last few months as money can be tied up for ages. Too difficult to get your money out. Though did have a short timed at 118, on the last rally. Didn't get there. If it had, I again would of taken profits at 60, not because I don't think this will fall further, but because your money can be tied up for 18 months as the company is declared of nil value.

[nomdeplume] 31/8/2020 09:39

Because, Wally, most of my money is invested in blue chips and trackers. I occasionally have a 10k punt on companies that I think might give me multiple returns. HYVE is an excellent example of this. It could be worth 10 times its current value in a couple of years. Now, answer my question.