Kier Share Discussion Threads

[elcapital2018] 04/12/2018 12:23

2 hedge funds increased their short on Friday but a couple went beelow 0.5%

[careful] 04/12/2018 12:11

shorters not closing yet, no significant buyers.

[wipo1] 04/12/2018 11:54

Corbyn will get in and call a second referendum, obvious really so Kier shares might even go up if that happens?

[elcapital2018] 04/12/2018 11:46

you know when the shorters are here when price is 70% lower in a few weeks

[minerve] 04/12/2018 11:38

Personally I think they should replace the ADVFN motto "home of the private investor" with "the cage for spread-betting chimps". In 20 years the IQ of this site has been shorted far greater than you see here with Kier! ROFLMAO!

[wipo1] 04/12/2018 11:36

Don't worry kier will re invent itself soon, Corbyn Construction ?

[ohdearohdearohdear] 04/12/2018 11:21

"On my life I bought in at 385-390"

Blimey. Who, above the age of seven, says "on my life"? Blimey.

[minerve] 04/12/2018 11:02

By-the-way, you are obviously a football fan. I've had the pleasure of meeting Pele. A real gent of his age. Unlike a few others I could mention.

[minerve] 04/12/2018 11:01

zico

On my life I bought in at 385-390. I'm not telling you the exact price(s) or you might see my trade(s).

[minerve] 04/12/2018 10:58

Ignore brexitplus careful. He and a few others like to troll me from the MRO thread. Probably because they envy my ability at investing and I proved them wrong on their miserable MRO holdings. I made a mint on GKN. I sold my shares to the poor things. Brexitplus also makes investment decisions based on anecdotes, friends and family. Kier has 20,000+ employees. Do you think one is going to know the situation properly? Even the CEO can't get it right! LOL

[zicopele] 04/12/2018 10:58

Sure you did

[minerve] 04/12/2018 10:45

Bought another tranche.

[brexitplus] 04/12/2018 10:34

Careful

Minerve tried to have fun at my expense over this, but my brother in law is a project director with a large competitor of Kier. He expects more problems in the sector; if not Kier then someone else.

As you may know there is a constant movement of senior staff looking to climb the greasy pole in this sector and they let known the problems with their former employers. He says everywhere all is not well with low margins, sometime work won at a loss just to keep on the quote list, clients doing everything that can to use penalty clauses, and late payment even by government who squeeze every penny out of contractors.

He has stayed with the same company under several new owners and the problem has always been lack of cash. He quotes for and runs major projects here in the UK, but increasingly the design work is done in Eastern Europe to reduce costs.

[vulgaris] 04/12/2018 10:23

We seem to be below the rights price...

[careful] 04/12/2018 10:16

it is a worry, the quality of management.
the one thing that shocked me about the televised CLLN hearings was the ordinary blokes of no obvious charisma or ability that comprised the senior executives of CLLN.

Against that it must be annoying for an industry that builds such wonderful projects such as cross rail, bridges, motorways and other infrastructure.
this is real work, high achievement and difficult.

that are often criticised by windbags who just push money around whilst sitting their elbows.

[brexitplus] 04/12/2018 10:06

Careful

The sector will survive but the real question is which companies will survive. Only the strong, well managed I think. Is Kier one of them?

[careful] 04/12/2018 09:58

I hold GFRD also.
construction is being crushed.

When the market attacks a sector there is no knowing where it leads.
I remember the pain of the mining sector not that long ago.
It was very painful.

I bought GLEN at 69p but was losing a fortune.
Investco said Glen had no value, and Goldman Sachs (they are never far away) said it was a conviction sell at under 100p.

If you can keep cool and stand the pain it often recovers.

look at construction and housing.
There will always need to be infrastructure and housing.
The projects these companies complete are impressive and irreplaceable know how is required.

This sector will emerge and survive despite its current pain.

[elcapital2018] 04/12/2018 09:58

these moron mug punters like minerve alwasy "say" they will filter me because they hate to take the banter after im proven correct

Minerve...maybe you really should filter me now! lol

[zicopele] 04/12/2018 09:55

Minerva is back...bet you are a shorter in disguise setting all the suckers up for the next down leg.

[minerve] 04/12/2018 09:36

Morning careful.

Well done. You have to ignore the idiots and charlatans.