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[brucie5] 02/1/2019 14:58

But maybe you have a point.

Trump can declare martial law, while he prepares to make himself President for Life. I'm sure he'd like to do something before Robert Moeller gets his ducks in a row and the Democrats start impeachment.

I'd really like to see Trump in jail eventually, and I dare say he and his homeys are mindful of the risk. He's surrounded by crooks, and sooner of later, one of those trails is going to lead to the Don himself. What would he do to evade such humiliation?


Fortunately, it was for men such as Trump that the USE Constitution was designed. Let's hope it passes this latest stress test.

[fireplace22] 02/1/2019 14:44

More Trump, from the HOC board:

Massive news coming from the US possibly in days, maybe tomorrow.
Trump's campaign promise to 'drain the swamp'. It's taken 2 years for the investigations and to put all the pieces into place for this to occur.
It's all happening unannounced now?

60,000 sealed indictments
Massive scale arrests and trials never happened before.
Marshall Law
Military tribunals for treason, sedition.
Unbelievable revelations to come out about the political (R&D), entertainment, MSM, social media, tech, business, banking, security sectors.
Gitmo has been built out with over $150 million spent on new facilities.
Two prison ships from NY and California on way or arrived at Gitmo.
100+ US Military police company sent to Gitmo early December instead of being at home with families for Xmas.

Where are:
Hillary Clinton
Bill Clinton
Comey
Clapper
etc etc

Stay tuned. The US is about to be turned upside down.

[swiss paul] 02/1/2019 14:26

You see - your thinking like politicians - not like normal people.

Yes numbers were plastered on the side of buses, but the general thought amongst us great unwashed was get us out of this (the EU). The only trouble we see is that we have swapped some charlatans in Europe to those a bit closer to home, but the upside is we can vote them out.
It was a cry / rage against the political classes that gave us an opportunity to voice our frustration - and we did.
Yes bluster you might consider it like a child's rant - but we had been banging on about it for years and all the liberal 'well meaning' politicians kept on promising was 'soon darling - soon'.
So put your number arguments away and aim for the heart of the matter.
regards
Swiss
PS the same rage helped Mr Trump get in

[brucie5] 02/1/2019 14:08

7Kiwi
2 Jan '19 - 12:26 - 70832 of 70833

I find at amazing that the Remoaners want to hamstring their own country and prevent us from doing trade deals with our friends and allies across the world
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This is such an extraordinarily vapid and ironic assertion, given the circumstances! When our real 'friends and allies' bar Donald Trump, lol, cannot understand what we are doing to ourselves!

[mad dog6] 02/1/2019 13:44

PETITION- STOP & DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ENTERING THE UK NOW!

[7kiwi] 02/1/2019 12:26

The point is that if we agree to May's deal, we are still effectively inside the customs union and therefore have to apply EU tariffs. Moreover, we can't diverge from EU standards to make our economy more competitive.

THis means the effectively we can't enter into new trade deals with anyone, not just the US.

I find at amazing that the Remoaners want to hamstring their own country and prevent us from doing trade deals with our friends and allies across the world.

[grannyboy] 02/1/2019 11:28

Well you have to ask, 'what's the difference between May being bullied by the gangsters, and all that that entails,ie: paying the gangsters £39 Billion+ more over the 'transition period', not being able to do free trade deals with other countries, still having to put new rules and regulations into UK legislation without having a say, still under the jurisdiction of the ECJ, and only being allowed to LEAVE IF the gangsters say we can...Do you call that a deal that is axcceptable?!!!!!


Leaving the EU completely, as an independent free country, making free trade agreements, would mean May and her team were no longer running the show...There would hopefully be an administration in charge that knew how to negotiate on the UK's behalf...

But also being free to do deals around the world, not just with the US, though important, wouldn't be a binary choice, as being still tied to the eu under Mays non leaving disaster, where being bullied by the gangsters is acceptable to the likes of blusteradjuster..

[blusteradjuster] 02/1/2019 10:21

Trump’s trade chief suggests the U.K. should not vote for May’s deal.

I’d expect the US to want a no-deal kind of outcome - what better way for Trump to bully a prostrated U.K. into accepting a trade deal on HIS terms.

[grannyboy] 02/1/2019 08:35

Lets understand the origination of this 'shabby deal', Is that the authors of it were UK civil servants along with the complicity of the main protagonist, MAY....After of course, let's not forget Mays visit to Berlin prior to the Chequers meeting to get Merkels approval for it...Which subsequently and rather unsurprisingly has been accepted by the other 27 members of the gangsters club, which covers their dikdats of fully humiliating the UK, in the gangsters attempts at persuading others who might have longings to escape this organisation from doing so...

May has being quite willing to be humiliated and shown to be a weak feeble puppet for the gangsters to use at their beck and call, along with that other sycophant from the ROI..

This WA. needs voting down in the HoP and thrown where it belongs..the dustbin of history, along with May and her cronies...

[brucie5] 02/1/2019 08:32

Well worth listening to Neil McGregor on R4 this week, "As others see us".

[hari] 02/1/2019 08:24

However we get there but only option is stay in the EU or WTO, May's deal will fail - If it is not in EU's interest to use the backstop , then why do they have a problem to add legal text that either party can choose when it needs to end .At the moment only EU can decide that , so they can drag it on indefinitely.. Too much mistrust now .

[blusteradjuster] 02/1/2019 08:20

The key word is “want” max. Perhaps we can’t have what we might want.

What if the lies plastered on buses and TV interviews were never achievable.


It’s like the reaction of a child:

Child: I want, I want, I want..
Adult: You can want but you can’t have.
Child: I hate you!

[maxk] 02/1/2019 08:15

I find it no surprise that the €uro's would want to lock us into an appalling deal, why not if it is to their advantage?


The big surprise, is that our own politicians would want to lock us into such a one sided deal.

[blusteradjuster] 02/1/2019 08:08

Repeated for the 96th time.

Try thinking about action and reaction Pendragon2


UK - We are leaving your club.
EU - OK but don’t expect any favours.
UK- That’s typical of you, no wonder we’re leaving!



BREXIT - doesn't this shabby deal on offer from the EU only emphasise the reasons for leaving that people voted for in 2016. Doesn't Brussels realise the dismal impression they have created for their own reputation.

[brucie5] 02/1/2019 08:03

Happy new year. Pen, doesn't the fact that we have brexiteers on both sides of TM's proposal suggest that you guys really had no common idea of what brexit means?

Refer it back to the People with the clear options indicated. Only real objection I can see to this is the fear that the UK has looked at the small print and changed its mind.

[edmondj] 02/1/2019 07:59

Fair enough, so long as the Americans don't get overly hysterical like they are prone to do in stocks, both ways.

[pendragon2] 02/1/2019 07:37

7K - my preference for this year's bear market will be US stocks paying quarterly dividends, either trading if the swings are a better deal than the divi, or accepting the divi.

The constant flow of funds into the US market for pensions will not slow and plenty of firms defend their divi's in difficult times as they are an important element of ex-emplyees incomes in old age.

Really aggressive trading could probably cycle through three or four stocks.

BREXIT - doesn't this shabby deal on offer from the EU only emphasise the reasons for leaving that people voted for in 2016. Doesn't Brussels realise the dismal impression they have created for their own reputation.

[mad dog6] 01/1/2019 20:03

New Years Eve, East London

[chestnuts] 01/1/2019 17:08

7Kiwi

You might want to look at RED

[7kiwi] 01/1/2019 14:37

Sometimes you need a plain-speaking Australian to tell it like it is.

Give this woman a medal. Courtesy of Sky News Australia.

Peta Credlin on the Brexit deal:

There's a saying in politics that things are rarely as bad, or as good as they seem. And it's usually true, but this Brexit fiasco is about as bad as it gets.

#Credlin 5 minutes well spent.

[grannyboy] 01/1/2019 12:26

It's an undeniable fact May was intent on negotiating a deal that kept us as closely aligned with the eu as possible, and with this disgusting, treacherous B.I.N.O. deal betrayal, shows May has lied, deceived and in connivance with the gangsters, will leaves us as a vessal state unable to leave without the eu's permission, do free trade agreements without the gangsters permission, meaning why would any country want to even start talks with the uk...In fact remaing in the eu having to take ALL the rules and regulations the gangsters wish to inflict on us, without any say whatsoever...And May is quite happy to push this disastrous deal onto the UK population, shows she is a traitor to our national interest...

[mroalan] 01/1/2019 12:01

i can,t stand any of them,but i detect a plan has been formed by her quite some time ago,perhaps when Davies was stabbed in the back.

[taurusthebear] 01/1/2019 11:37

I never thought I'd come across a PM as deceitful and inept as Blair/Brown, but May seems to have achieved that rare distinction. Deluded also springs to mind.

Happy New Year