Iofina Share Discussion Threads

[n3tleylucas] 20/12/2013 12:38

Reduce the Al Swearengen's and you will become like moi... loved by women, loved by men.

[jackabite] 20/12/2013 12:29

N3tley

I erm...kind of done it :) lol You should have known by now that I go against the grain with most thingsss ;)

[n3tleylucas] 20/12/2013 12:17

Jackabite,

Kindly reduce the l's to one in the last word of 13732 please.

[shroder] 20/12/2013 12:06

Is that the full note? if not I'll ask for a copy.

Cheers,


SCRUTABLE 20 Dec'13 - 10:28 - 13713 of 13732 1 2

[napoleon 14th] 20/12/2013 12:05

6. Don't allow advfn to double post your drivel!

[jpsmithson] 20/12/2013 11:59

Long term buy and hold on the AIM is an oxymoron and very foolish.
Apart from very rare exceptions you would end up a poor person if you followed that investing strategy and its a dangerous notion to bandy about.
It basically means do some research and if you are happy on the day you invest then leave it alone and bury your head in the sand no matter what happens in the future.
People who have been selling from 240p downwards have not been forced or amateurs or foolish they have been wise and can simply read an RNS and know what it means.
They have not made the awfull mistake of falling in love with a share and so therefore lost the ability to be rational. They do not seek to forgive every management failure but have had the ability to think for themselves and so have preserved a great deal of capital because of it.
Possibly to 2 worst things to do in investing, fall in love with a share and buy and hold on the AIM.

[knobbly] 20/12/2013 11:55

ramu, why keep repeating yourself?

[ramu kumar] 20/12/2013 11:49

The share price may rise in the short term but we do not know what bad news is lurking around the corner. There's always some excuse like towers, shipment delays, cleaning etc. etc. which I find surprising that these were not factored in their original plans. If my builder tells me 3 months, I add another 2 for unforeseen circumstances - this is common sense, not rocket science.

Some feel it's better to wait for 2013 financials before committing further. The BOD have lost credibility and nobody knows for certain if the figures in the latest rns will be met. May sound pessimistic but the management did not meet any of it's own targets and timelines in previous trading updates.

If water news is not positive and 2013 financials are worse than the last rns, the share price will take a battering. Also, there's stockpiling and nobody is sure about cash burn on production and capex on future plants - cash flow will be critical.

[bogg1e] 20/12/2013 11:27

someone asked about the capex of mobile units, its about 1/5th the cost of a plant.

[deanroberthunt] 20/12/2013 11:17

on some stocks on AIM when things go pear shaped it's hard to even sell £50/£100's worth.

[deanroberthunt] 20/12/2013 11:16

AIM stocks should on represent a small % of a broad portfolio...as they are illiquid and have the propensity to disappoint.

[garfield31] 20/12/2013 11:15

The ability to sit tight whilst forces which are not really understood by ordinary PIs play out seems to have become far more important in recent times. It is not just with IOF but with other shares such as Globo and XEL. Hard reminder that it really is a jungle.

[neddo] 20/12/2013 11:11

the old addage s still true , only play with what you can afford to lose on the aim,yes the aim, so stop blaming others for your losses, merry xms and a large recovery next year,

[uppompeii] 20/12/2013 10:52

That's a better way of putting it Scrutable :-)

[scrutable] 20/12/2013 10:51

uppompeii
The Mugs are indubitably those who Buy High when confidence is high and Sell Low ,when confidence is low. That is how it has always been. I have enormous sympathy for those compelled by circumstances to sell actual shares - say to fund Christmas - or household bills - but most PIs holding real shares have not been FORCED to sell. I suspect that the panic has been infectious and an important learning lesson. One should invest in shares because one has researched the opportunity and should hold tight,with patience, until the opportunity has changed or is exhausted.

The wipe outs of leveraged holders was enforced much earlier when the price first dived to 140p. Thereafter the selling was fuelled by the Growling of Bears, by pure panic

[warmsun] 20/12/2013 10:41

Cheers Spike...I have already left the building....! :)

[deanroberthunt] 20/12/2013 10:40

look, I'm not a holder, but here's my 2 penneth fwiw..

the recent statement was a BIG miss on the forecast/expectation front....mr market doesn't like missing forecasts and uncertainity....and unfortuantely, there is now a chance of further warnings and delays...until he is reassured that things are firmly back on track, the share price will remain depressed....

[spike_1] 20/12/2013 10:40

warm - were did you put your coat - I'll get it for you ;0)

[warmsun] 20/12/2013 10:36

Well, when I look in the mirror, I don't see 'mug'...I just see g u m .....so, clearly I am no mug ???!






I know, I know...a pathetic attempt at humour....what else is there left to do right now??? :(

[qs99] 20/12/2013 10:35

I'm in for some low amounts... Looks a decent opp.for material gains in 2014..if merely a timing issue...

[lignum] 20/12/2013 10:35

Scrut - the coincidence of a NED leaving and recent RNSs also undermines confidence as does lack of buying by CFO. Not sure we will get anywhere on the former but given the attractive share price and the very current update given to the market I can't understand why the CFO wouldn't fill his boots.