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[the librarian] 19/12/2013 17:33

Could I ask politely that all the personal attacks stop, it's just cluttering it all up and making this bb pointless to read. If you want to have a go there is plenty of opportunity and plenty of people to agree with you on the other thread, I haven't looked there for quite a while because of all of the schoolboy stuff.

Alternatively, you can set your own threads up and this can be abandoned altogether.

The de-rampers have now had their fun and probably filled their pockets with cash, please don't keep inviting them back.

[festario] 19/12/2013 17:31

MonkeyMagic, which ones are you referring to, and what do you suspect?

[rathlindri] 19/12/2013 17:29

Watching here most of this week, feeling much sympathy for the genuine people here that have lost hard earned money. I feel there is an opportunity for some recovery here when things settle down but I guess trust needs to be rebuilt first.
I'll dip my toe in when/if things turn for the better.

Good luck all.

[naphar] 19/12/2013 17:28

I keep seeing lots of comments on here about the BOD over promising, people here ramping etc etc. But we seem to be forgetting (in some respects) the fact that something happened mid year, that perhaps put us where we are now.

We could debate all day, but I am currently of the following opinion:-

I think current management are trying to set a decent base they can hopefully outperform on, but not let people down with.
I think Lance may be guilty of being a bit over enthusiastic talking about his baby, (although he came over as quite reserved when I spoke to him), but ultimately he worked his socks off to deliver as much as he could before he left, met deadlines and expectations, and I think would have delivered more this year if he had been able to stay, keep going in the same way himself and keep driving the team.

I think the problems this year since he left have been exasperated by the vacuum his departure caused, despite the company trying to put interim measures in place.

It may actually be a case of old management were great, new management are good but more reserved and maybe less ambitious (don't want to make themselves sick like Lance did), and interim management were not so great. Time will tell on that piece.

We are where we are, we have to look to the future. Despite how we all feel about the drop, keeping on looking back helps no-one in the end, it will not change anything, although we may learn some lessons about our own behaviour from it. For instance, I should have trusted my gut and sold a large chunk at £2+ when I thought we might be ahead of ourselves, but I got greedy and thought the rollout would continue apace as it had been under the leadership of Lance.

I'll probably get a load of votes down for this post, at the end it's just my opinion, others can value it as they see fit, so hit the voting buttons as much as you wish, it really makes no difference to me. All this bickering though, is getting us nowhere.

[monkeymagic3] 19/12/2013 17:26

Depressingly I think we probably know the answer.

[ramu kumar] 19/12/2013 17:26

mm3, they can post under new names but you'll soon figure out who they are by their writing style.

[uppompeii] 19/12/2013 17:24

Lol, good question monkey, maybe one of the new profiles can answer that! I feel positively senior.

[monkeymagic3] 19/12/2013 17:19

Why all these new profiles?

[ramu kumar] 19/12/2013 17:06

Meadow2, I doubt he knows anything. Just wants to curry favour amongst the readers here to boost his ego and feel important - probably suffers from some sort of inferiority complex and low self esteem.

[nevmyers] 19/12/2013 17:00

worraps

I left you a post on here last night about this subject, I hope you saw it. Many are in the same boat as you but when your getting over 35 posts in less than two days from some its best to let it settle and say little.

[worraps] 19/12/2013 16:57

Hi, warmsun......yes, that's the downside of expressing opinions! I don't want to 'feed' anyone, but I just hate subterfuge and deceipt and manipulation.

Best wishes to you too......yes, we certainly have been here before, haven't we? Unbelievable really.....I thought it could never happen again!

More fool me.....that's for sure. Take care. Something's got to go right one day, hasn't it? I've got a feeling I've said that before, ha ha.

[meadow2] 19/12/2013 16:56

superg1 - I accept that you are entitled to say what you wish to say on this BB, but don't you realise that you can only create suspicion and even dislike of you as a poster if you keep on telling the world that you know this, that and the other but it's not to be revealed? Please wait in future until you are in a position to tell all!

[warmsun] 19/12/2013 16:51

worraps, :(

we are all hurting....we all want to shout and scream...but, perhaps best not to, it helps feed the 'others'...

my best wishes to you...we have been here before, haven't we.... :(

[jackabite] 19/12/2013 16:40

worraps

great posts...a pleasure to read someone who has a grasp of what's been going on here!!!!

I love it!!!

[jackabite] 19/12/2013 16:38

worraps

because it's a concerted effort to get the ramp going again!!! most of the rampers are close to being margin called and they have created fake id's and are read to go to work!!!!

Trust me, watch our for the lift in sentiment!!!! it's fake by all accounts but watch it unfold!!! It's already started but not in full affect yet!!!

[worraps] 19/12/2013 16:37

.....and as for recommending attending AGMs and presentations for accurate information, don't make me laugh. It's turned out that everything that was said at them, all the optimism and back slapping, wasn't really a true reflection of what was happening. It was their VISION of what they would have liked to have happened. That's all.

[worraps] 19/12/2013 16:30

Well then, superg, you don't actually KNOW anything, do you....so why hint that you do? What's the point of saying that you've heard something, but then not say WHAT??

[ramu kumar] 19/12/2013 16:29

SG, then why bother mentioning it in the first place?

[superg1] 19/12/2013 16:27

You know me meadow I don't until someone can add some substance to it, a few heckles from the balcony won't change that approach.

KillerB no idea what the anonymous lot are on about as all on filter, they all could have attended presentations and AGMS but they don't.

I saw that keyboard warrior post the other day, very true.

[jackabite] 19/12/2013 16:26

ramu kumar


pmsl....it's more of a ming these days lol

[ramu kumar] 19/12/2013 16:24

Meadow2, you forgot the PING!!!!!

[jackabite] 19/12/2013 16:24

Killerbudgie

I note you did not have a problem with Superpooh alluding to having inside information? I take it ramping rather than obscenities rank higher in your list of acceptable investing rules?

The fact that people lose thousands because of rampers like superpooh does not seem to bother you?

it's there choice there money? same can be said for anyone casting obscenities your choice to read them when you can easily filter them.

[meadow2] 19/12/2013 16:20

I, too, hope that superg1 gives up the nod and wink approach. Spit it out man!

[jackabite] 19/12/2013 16:19

Killerbudgie

what's your point?