Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Indigovision LSE:IND London Ordinary Share GB0032654534 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 111.00p 107.00p 115.00p 111.00p 111.00p 111.00p 0 07:48:08
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Software & Computer Services 31.3 -2.1 -25.8 - 8.34

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I think this dog is undervalued at 115p to buy. Bear in mind the trading update last month which stated "the current indicators support the Board's target to at least break even in the current year." At the current $/£ exchange rate Net working capital is 130p Net tangible asset value is 163p
How come Indigo spend over $3m a year on R&D yet can't seem to make that translate into profit? Are the lead times very long, or is it more a matter of intense competition?
value hound
Thanks Stuart for the summary.
SRSM - thanks for posting that (and didn't need to go to iii for it this year!). Paul Scott at Stockopedia agrees: "..there's life in the old dog!"
AGM Report Met the new Chairman (George Elliott) and CEO (Pedro Simoes ex Avigilon Sales). Very pleasant and appear to bringing fresh pairs of eyes on the business. Sobering to see how a main competitor Avigilon were sold for $1000,000,000.00 to Motorola and they started selling in 2006/7. Sigh! Pedro indicated how Avigilon were very concerned about IND back then, particularly relating to the IND core DNA concept Distributed Network Architecture. Which basically means that IND kit is more robust. Even today there is only one company that comes close to IND on this. The others double everything up for robustness. But Avigilon went for HiDef cameras from the start. I think IND were more focused on framerate (casinos can't drop frames). But as we all know camera resolution is where Sell Benefits not Technology is turned on its head. People wanted HiDef and IND didn't provide it. Billion dollar company versus 10 million dollar company was perhaps the result. (A lot more to it than that and only my opinion). The board described lots of efforts to improve supply chain and products and interactions with suppliers. All seems good stuff. Cybervigilant and the new Integra look good. The recent Panorama showing punters home cameras being easily hacked to livestream childrens' bedrooms to anyone in the world won't have gone unnoticed by professionals. And Integra was sort of asked for by suppliers who would sell IND kit for Enterprise solutions but had little to offer the SMB market. This helps fill this gap. Life in IND yet I think. Stuart
Going to AGM. Only shareholder last year (at least in punter terms, maybe a Suit or two). Remember the venue isn't where it used to be. Hoechst Lecture Theatre, Pentlands Science Park, Bush Loan, Penicuik, Midlothian, EH26 0PZ at 11 am
17 May 2018 IndigoVision Group plc ("IndigoVision" or the "Group") AGM Trading Update At the Annual General Meeting to be held at 11am today, the Board will update shareholders on trading as follows: "IndigoVision reports that, in the four months to 28 April 2018, sales have shown double digit growth over the prior year with a corresponding reduction in losses, in line with expectations. As in previous years, sales are expected to be weighted towards the second half of the year and the nature of our business is that the precise timing of our orders is difficult to predict. Nevertheless, the current indicators support the Board's target to at least break even in the current year. In line with the Company's innovative product roadmap, IndigoVision launched a number of new products at the recent ISC West trade show in April 2018. Following the launch of its award winning CyberVigilant product last year, IndigoVision's patent pending technology can now be deployed within much of the Company's range of cameras, providing a cost effective tool for monitoring cyber attacks at the edge of a customer's video surveillance network. The Company also launched the Integra all-in-one device, combining video storage and its Control Center video management software in a single piece of hardware. The Integra device is expected to drive new revenue from the SME market in the latter part of the year".
Maybe a good entry point.
Two years ago I ditched my holding for 167 having given up on them. Today out of the blue an AR for 2017 arrived, so had another look. Shows just what a crock it has become. Don’t have much luck with Scottish-based companies, and guess the new tax regime won’t help. Not tempted.
An interesting tweet this morning (@IndigoVision). It looks as if IND may be re-thinking or testing their target market sectors. The tweet claims that "#Integra™: Control Room in a Box" is perfect for "small to medium enterprise sites such as #Retail, #Education, #Banking and #Hospitality". I hope that they are using The Business Model Canvas or similarly structured discipline to identify and test, refine and align their value propositions to find and confirm the most viable potential customer sectors. However - the web site is still appalling and needs a professional overhaul in my opinion. It probably reflects the lack of a marketing led strategy. A competent internal or outsourced marketing director and team is still (and urgently) required to support the technical and sales operations. If CJohn's comments at #3944 are a sound summary of IND's commercial challenge - and if they cannot carve a profitable niche in the market - it seems to me that positioning the company for a sale might be the best strategy. How could they achieve a premium business sale value? One way might be to slash costs and trim the product range to ensure a profitable year or two. (I wonder whether part of such a plan might be to spin off the technical product development team as a separate business.) Just musing and hoping. DYOR
I've been happy to take modest profits here with the price around 130p. It still looks attractive on asset grounds, given that the price is below net current assets. But the business is a poor one economically: a small multi-national with all the high costs of maintaining a presence in many different markets, plus facing fierce local competition in each one, not to mention Chinese companies competing on price. Their cutting-edge technology is simply not necessary for nearly all their potential client firms; the cheaper Chinese manufacturers' product is pefectly adequate.
I'm surprised the price hasn't fallen on today's pretty awful results. I can't think of a good reason to buy these except maybe the balance sheet but that is slowly disappearing too along with turnover and margins.
Wrote this article back in 2013:- hTTp:// Sadly the results this morning are awful. Now loss making and the dividend has been cut. Targeting break even in 2018. Too little too late?? NAV is ok against market cap, but cash diminished quickly last year and I'd worry that 2018 could see further cash burn? I wish them well but certainly not tempted to buy back in now, if ever. Feels like they missed their opportunity in mid-2000's.
Until the next profit warning.
still selling: hxxp://
Looks as though everyone that wanted out is out.
Is H2 trading likely to be around break-even at the operating level? I make it net working capital of 153p, and tangible NAV of 183p, at end June. However cash is down to only $2.5M (24p per share) as of the November trading update
CliffPeat, Agreed but I think that is why no takeover has happened - any interested parties will have spoken to New Pistoia & Sorbus and likely be met with a £3+ price tag. An approach to Grossart while he was chairman would be an approach to the company. Now he has retired he could be sounded out privately but remember he bought at £2.60 only 6 months ago. A successful takeover would be great since it would likely be at a price 2-3x the current market price it is just highly unlikely given the level that the largest holders would want to support it.
I've bought a modest holding here. In my opinion, economically, the business is a poor one, for reasons I've already outlined. But on a positive front, management has been poor too, so there's much room for improvement. That having been said, I'm buying becasue of the discount to current and tangible assets which is over-done.
If it doesn't get bought out down here, something is seriously wrong.
dangersimpson2 RNS today: SVS Church House Deep Value Investments Fund have added and now hold more than 3% of IND. Pistoia, Sorbus/Farmiloe, Grossart and Church House now hold over 50% between them - I reckon this makes it easier for potential buyers to engage informally to test the water regarding a takeover and offer price range required to achieve these key investors' objectives. Do you agree?
It would make a lot of sense but then it would have made sense at pretty much any point during the last couple of years and it hasn't happened. The sticking point I suspect is the level at which New Pistoia Income & Sorbus/Richard Farmiloe are willing to accept given they can block any offer. Farmiloe was certainly willing to sell around £2.80 level in June but we are a long way from there. Sorbus (run by Farmiloe) were buying at £1.80 in March. So I think they would not accept any offer sub £2. New Pistoia last bought at the £1.50 level but in the past they have bought above £3.50 and their average has to be north of £2. So realistically I don't think an offer sub £2.50 would be successful and that sort of premium would be hard for a competitor to stump up even if they could partially fund it with IND's own NCA.
Prop_Joe Post 3929 I agree that it looks like one option and presumably depends on the attitude of New Pistoia Income Ltd which owns just over 30% of the shares according to the website. Pistoia sold out their holding in Hornby this year. Can't quickly find any information about them though HSBC Switzerland acted as their nominees in a transaction some years ago. In terms of value of IND, I suspect there is a lot of sales and admin cost that could be eliminated (starting with Board salaries:) and there may well be value in under-exploited technology. The 2016 accounts showed a gross profit of $23m. Assuming an acquirer could reduce other costs by 40% (mainly on sales and admin) they might compute an underlying addition to their profits of around $10m - less any one-off re-organisation cost. Two scenarios: 1. A trade sale: If an acquirer pays $30m (say 3 x profit contribution) - say £22m for IND that comes to approaching £3 a share (7.5m shares) A lot of assumptions and more knowledgeable holders may make better guesses. 2. Pistoia bid for the 70% they don't own at (say) £2 a share and prepare for a sale in a year or two at £3+ I bought a few more hoping for a take over or recovery in the next 6 months. Just an opinion and as ever DYOR.
Breaking the USA market is the key but it something IND have been trying to do unsuccessfully for years and years and years. Other markets seem to be doing OK which maybe implies the issue is local (marketing or sales?) Camera sales are booming. What was it, 10% growth last year and 25% the year before? If it hadn’t been for the collapse in camera prices driven by the Chinese our ‘too nice’ guy CEO would still have a job. Maybe it’s the uncertainty over camera prices that have put predators off? You’d think as the pound is low would have attracted bids by now....if one was going to appear.
I've thought that for a while, still waiting.........
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