And obviously, all of the market makers can take part in the auction if they choose.. |
Apologies , I meant an order on Poolbeg !! |
Bossyboss
I thought that the end of day uc trades were the mms balancing their books will have to read up on it, thanks for the info.
Still do not really see how it affects the share price when the quoted price is the same the day before and the day after.
Sam |
The market makers will smash the price down if Mo doesn't deliver. Unless he can pull something spectacular out of the bagm the share price will give us an indication of what to expect. If it keeps drifting down 10p is very much on the cards. Be careful people. |
As there would be a very real possibility of a swift bid .. I can't see institutions being supportive of Mo if this is as bad as I fear and they will want out . |
Yes, getting closer to my 10p target..
Where are the 30p brigade? Trout, 1gw, Pierre, Supernumerary etc etc
Surely given these have fallen 40%, they are loading up????
I see FAB was also pumped/dumped, as predicted.
sikhthetech - 11 Dec 2024 - 12:32:22 - 8962 of 9143 hVIVO plc - HVO
Trout,
"At 30p and with £62m revs expected the mkt cap was £200m (just over 3 times revs).
So does that mean current price giving us £150m mkt cap is pricing in just under £50m revs for 2025? There seems to be a good cushion there"
Wrong.
The expectations were the same when the share price was 10p, only 2 years ago, weren't they?
The share price rose on the back of the company being talked up, CEO awarded the huge >7m options, back dated a year and exercise from < 2 months time, in FEBRUARY.
A new red flag is the fy2024 TU has been pushed back to Feb (coincidence!!!).
I'd expect the share price to be nearer to 10p than 30p.
The newsflow here has been as predicted. |
The time to buy will be about 2 weeks after Mo warns on 2025 , but I agree it will be circa 12 p |
I actually feel bad for Hvivo.
It's a good company and does good work,but unfortunately it's too focused on Challenge Trials currently.
Also it would seem the Infectious disease cycle has peaked. |
Contracts are drying up. |
As expected, this is a poor start to 2025 for HVO. It is slightly concerning why there are no big buyers at this level. I am anticipating less than impressive numbers next month and certainly not blowing the doors off. Should present a good trading opportunity closer to 12p. |
Sambuca, it's nothing to do with MM .. it's an auction at close of play that usually lasts 5 mins .. anybody can place a buy or a sell with whatever price and amounts.
You get what they call an uncrossed trade if any buyers and sellers are at the same price .
If there aren't then you don't get an uncrossed trade .
Auctions take place during the day too, and whenever the price has moved by more than 10%.. |
The share price is closer to 10p than 30p, isn't it?
sikhthetech - 11 Dec 2024 - 12:32:22 - 8962 of 9143 hVIVO plc - HVO
Trout,
"At 30p and with £62m revs expected the mkt cap was £200m (just over 3 times revs).
So does that mean current price giving us £150m mkt cap is pricing in just under £50m revs for 2025? There seems to be a good cushion there"
Wrong.
The expectations were the same when the share price was 10p, only 2 years ago, weren't they?
The share price rose on the back of the company being talked up, CEO awarded the huge >7m options, back dated a year and exercise from < 2 months time, in FEBRUARY.
A new red flag is the fy2024 TU has been pushed back to Feb (coincidence!!!).
I'd expect the share price to be nearer to 10p than 30p.
The newsflow here has been as predicted. |
 IIs buy using other people's money.
It was 1gw and his mates talking about II holdings.
sikhthetech - 07 Aug 2024 - 11:34:19 - 7823 of 9142 hVIVO plc - HVO
Aishah
"Neil Hermon has bought a small stake in clinical trials group Hvivo"
" makes up 0.1% of the £637m Henderson Smaller Companies Trust (HSL) portfolio."
"Hermon said in recent interim results that Hvivo offered a relatively cheap and effective way to undertake accelerated drug development."
Yes, small stake.
How much? 0.1% of £637m is £637k, yes k. Tiny, hardly significant. How's it compare to the sitting chairman dumped his near 50m holding, worth around £10m!!!
It backs up what I've been saying, does it? IIs take tiny stakes as punts.
sikhthetech - 08 Mar 2024 - 15:00:26 - 6946 of 7823 hVIVO plc - HVO
pierre,
"It's now a serious investable company imv"
Such a serious investable company that the Chairman and founder dumped majority of his holding. ;-)
How do the 1-2% holdings(punts) by institutions compare to the > 7m options held by the CEO?
Not forgetting there's evidence, from company's own figures, showing growth has slowed significantly.
Adding to the questionable business model. |
Yes Yump,I actually misjudged u..
You were issuing words of caution ⚠️ in your own vernacular way.
What's your opinion on the Poolbeg arrangement? |
When you need reassurance, where is Pierre O'Ramper to tell you that it will all be fantastic in the future, because the institutions were all buying in at 30p ?
You only have to have been investing for a short time to figure out that institutions buying or selling is not a sign of anything much at all. Certainly not compared to directors buying or selling in volume or bulk.
Directors do buy when a share seem cheap to them. Institutions only buy when the story looks credible, which means its never at the bottom.
Why aren't they buying in bulk now? |
Well yes, when the UT is 5k shares one day and 15k shares the other, and reported volume each day was over 2m shares I think you can reasonably question the relevance of the UTs to price discovery. |
MMs baffle in other words :-) Thanks 1gw
Sam |
It's just the move in the closing UT prices. |
Can somebody please explain to me how on Friday HVO were 19p bid 19.5p ask today they are 18,5p bid and 19,5p ask and according to ADVFN that is arise of 0.4p or 2.09%.
Sam |
Be aware FAB is being pumped and dumped.... |
1gw
Post #5463
You posted a graph with HVO against TLY to try and persuade gullible readers to discredit my posts, warning of red flags.
Can you please be honest and post a follow up graph showing performance of your shares during 2024 compared to TLY.
Unless, it doesn't suit your agenda and you prefer to continue to deceive gullible readers
To help, your growing list of failures, were:
Byot -90%
Inse -45%
Ntq -70%
sln -62%
Polb -22%
Yet the share you and your mates have been desperately deramping.
TLY +48%
Given you portray yourself as well researched, why do virtually all your/your mates shares crash. Why do they crash on warnings I have posted and you and your mates don't post until the shares have stopped rising?
You make a dodgy 2nd hand car salesman sound honest.
How many multiple ids do you have and why? |
Protrader
Re Polb:
Yet another share where newsflow as I predicted
Again, virtually all shares ramped by 1gw and his mates crash.
Great start 1gw.
1gw,
you make a dodgy 2nd hand car salesman sound honest.
how many multiple ids do you have and why |
Cathal losing more credibility with POLB. I'm shocked that people still trust him. |
Still a sad lad ST. |
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