Hurricane Energy Share Discussion Threads

[davidblack] 11/2/2019 15:52

Hi Buzz just hoping to distract people back onto Hurricane as the Green conversation is a waste of time.

Either side is possibly right but human beings haven’t been around long enough to understand just how long earth cycles are and measuring change against tiny periods like 500 years doesn’t cut it.

Are we in a period of cooling or heating up? We don’t know. A couple of 100,000 years ago there were no polar ice caps, but 15,000 years ago they covered half the planet.

Anyway this is all mute. We do need plastic and much more which comes from oil for modern life to continue.

So maybe the trick is to use it a lot more prudently and not to polute the planet.

And for those that want to argue about time lines the rock that Hurricane is drilling is 2bn years old, half as old as this planet in its current form.

[buzzzzzzzz] 11/2/2019 15:45

Hi Extrader

I am not doubting your source....just saying I believe the study is rubbish!

I have tried the links you listed but cannot access successfully.

[steve73] 11/2/2019 15:41

Rahoshi - all (OK - Most) energy we use ends up as heat... so irrespective of how we actually produce energy/electricity, we will end up warming our planet. The more energy we consume, the more will be released, although obviously improved efficiency of conversion reduces "waste" heat at the generating stage.

Most of this excess heat is simply lost to space, although greenhouse gasses (CO2, Methane, water vapour, etc) will help to trap it, and a higher CO2 content will trap more of the excess waste heat. Don't underestimate the effect of water vapour - this is probably the largest contributor of "greenhouse" gas.

Geothermal energy is effectively nuclear fission from the Uranium left over at creation breaking down into lead in the earth's core/mantle. Without it the earth would have cooled much more than it has over it's lifetime. (Although there is another theory that the moons gravitational "massaging" of the earth is keeping it hoer than it should otherwise be. Certainly the slowing of earths rotational speed due to the moon's gravity, and the slowing of the moons orbit as the distance increases releases huge amounts of energy, which we mostly observe as tides.)

[buzzzzzzzz] 11/2/2019 14:54

DB

Soon hopefully.

I have grown used to the excitement of watching ships whizzz around the north of Scotland and it will be something else to keep an eye on, too bad we don,t get daily metres drilled reports!!!

[davidblack] 11/2/2019 14:52

When do we think the Spirit drilling will kick off?

[buzzzzzzzz] 11/2/2019 14:45

My short on US oil just hit target and I have a sell signal on Brent showing to be taken at 10 pm tonight.

If it triggers my target will be around $59.00.

Only small potatoes!

[rahosi] 11/2/2019 13:44

I agree I omitted Hydro from base load; for some reason in my mind I group wave and tidal as one. I note nobody challenged that sun / solar sunspot activity etc being a major part of the cause of climate change. If 1% of the planet's geothermal energy could be utilised, that would be many multitudes of what we could ever conceivably require!

Does anybody know of any Climate Change related information relating to the impact of 'new' energy created by fission & eventually fusion reactors.

[bloodhound] 11/2/2019 13:34

Hyper - Is this about global warming or you pumping your Lithium producer shares at every opportunity? I suspect the latter.....

If you really want to be in contact with someone who would make a difference, fire off an email to the Donald@ (Do let me know how you on please).

BH

[francis55] 11/2/2019 13:18

Be good to see how it's received by the City boys..

[francis55] 11/2/2019 13:16

Hydro should be added to the list as a sustainable source of clean energy and ongoing quantum computing will unlock the chemical composition of fusion energy which will be our source of energy forever.

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[mad foetus] 11/2/2019 12:52

I had a brown out of my own when I found out that rope had broken. Fortunately was by myself at the time.

[rahosi] 11/2/2019 12:47

The 2 currently viable 24/7 'green' methods of generating electricity are geothermal and dare I say it, nuclear. Wind, Wave, Solar, are not base load (24/7) and thus still require full traditional backup for when nature doesn't oblige.

Geothermal only interrupts the radiating of the planetary core heat into space. I am not sure what the effect of creating new energy from effectively nothing, nuclear has on heating the planet.

However the real bad boy in climate change is the sun / solar activity. That is predominantly the cause of climate change. What man gets up to is the junior, but not insignificant, partner in the equation.
None the less it would be a really good thing if mankind were to stop polluting its own backyard.

Am a bit vague here: Back in the 1950's I think the UN discussed wholesale burning of oil to warm up the planet!

How much does one trust ones politicians, who have funded most of such research, that it isn't a tax raising exercise?

The quoted political timeline for electric vehicles is balderdash. It will happen the year after the power storage tech is ready. The cradle to grave of an ICE car as opposed to electric is not dissimilar. The points the 'pollutions' are created are very different! Unless they find a viable alternative to lithium storage, the limited lithium resource, that can just about cope with current demand, would rocket in price, pricing it out of automotive. The UK, due to insufficient / end of life power stations / political indecision, is already heading for 'Brown Outs'. If the UK were to shift to EVs, we would have Black Outs.

[lancasterbomber] 11/2/2019 12:44

I trust Science, I just don't trust Scientists (especially one's dependent on Government funding)

[volsung] 11/2/2019 12:40

It is a great priviledge to be filtered by gary

[tournesol] 11/2/2019 12:15

Disputing climate change and the central role of human activity therein is akin to arguing for a flat earth.

The overwhelming, almost unanimous view of the scientific community is absolutely clear and decided. Climate change is real and is largely a consequence of CO2 emissions resulting from human activities. It might be possible to construct elaborate hypotheses which lead to alternative interpretations but these are not viewed as credible by the scientific world. It is telling that much of the opposition to the idea of CO2 driven climate change derives from organisations that make money from fossil fuels and from carbon generating activities. These people have no more claim to objectivity than big tobacco does in the discussion of lung cancer in smokers.

People who are sceptical of climate change are simply indulging in escapism.