Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Havelock Europa LSE:HVE London Ordinary Share GB0004149356 ORD 10P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 6.25p 6.00p 6.50p 6.25p 6.245p 6.25p 0 09:00:03
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Household Goods & Home Construction 60.8 0.2 0.3 20.8 2.60

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18/11/2017
10:01
Coolspool 29, a very good post, you seem to have done your homework!!! I voiced similar sentiments after his appointment but not in such detail. My only observation to your post is that Havalock is not a manufacturer but an interior contractor, only a small percentage of the turnover is manufactured product. The greater percentage of turnover is management of sub trades.
goodoldays
18/11/2017
06:55
I have watched this Guy Ormrod closely ever since he joined Farnborough international. To my knowledge he has no experience whatsoever in actually running a proper manufacturing business. I notice his CV has grown his qualification to now become a BA Hons degree.(perhaps it is correct )but as I recall his Farnborough CV when He joined claimed a modest degree with a nondescript University. Shareholders would do well to study Ormrod's face book page on linked in.The word vacuous springs to from Farnborough is a stroke of -in my view - madness. At Farnborough, one had a captive market -- exhibitors such as Boeing , Airbus, Bombardier, Embrair ,Cessna and many other air frame manufacturers and component suppliers are forced to pay whatever the going rate is per Sq Metre --no different from the Paris Air show. Where is the competition in that? Strutting around claiming He was responsible for growth as Ormrod claims -is dead easy. Even the Bahrain show was a dead cert What were the true reasons for his leaving the Telford job and then departing the NEC I wonder? - Did the board carry out due diligence I wonder.. .In my view Ormrod is a fair weather lightweight--and when Godden states "Ormrod is a fast learner" --who wants a fast learner in such a business. Surely experience in running a proper sales and manufacturing operation is what is required-not messing about with various shows, exhibition halls and again--captive customers held to ransom on the price of square footage ! Godden's comment unwittingly but succinctly confirms I think that Ormrod has no real experience in such a role as a CEO with a proper manufacturing operation with real employees on the clock and tough labour relations (the real commercial world) --fine if you are flogging fruit and veg perhaps. I give Ormrod 2 years at most before he jumps ship or suddenly departs to pursue new opportunities. Speaking to those who worked under him at Farnborough--they summed up his new position with the words "Gob smacked" at in their opinion, the unsuitability of placing him in such a position.
coolspool 29
18/11/2017
06:50
I have watched this Guy Ormrod closely ever since he joined to my knowledge in actually running a proper manufacturing business. I notice his CV has grown his qualification to now become a BA Hons degree.(perhaps it is correct )but as I recall his Farnborough CV when He joined claimed a modest degree with a nondescript University. Shareholders would do well to study Ormrod's face book page on linked in.The word vacuous springs to from Farnborough is a stroke of -in my view - madness. At Farnborough, one had a captive market -- exhibitors such as Boeing , Airbus, Bombardier, Embrair ,Cessna and many other air frame manufacturers and component suppliers are forced to pay whatever the going rate is per Sq Metre --no different from the Paris Air show. Where is the competition in that? Strutting around claiming He was responsible for growth as Ormrod claims -is dead easy. Even the Bahrain show was a dead cert What were the true reasons for his leaving the Telford job and then departing the NEC I wonder? - Did the board carry out due diligence I wonder.. .In my view Ormrod is a fair weather lightweight--and when Godden states "Ormrod is a fast learner" --who wants a fast learner in such a business. Surely experience in running a proper sales and manufacturing operation is what is required-not messing about with various shows, exhibition halls and again--captive customers held to ransom on the price of square footage ! Godden's comment unwittingly but succinctly confirms I think that Ormrod has no real experience in such a role as a CEO with a proper manufacturing operation with real employees on the clock and tough labour relations (the real commercial world) --fine if you are flogging fruit and veg perhaps. I give Ormrod 2 years at most before he jumps ship or suddenly departs to pursue new opportunities. Speaking to those who worked under him at Farnborough--they summed up his new position with the words "Gob smacked" at in their opinion, the unsuitability of placing him in such a position.
coolspool 29
15/11/2017
15:34
TT2, The Havelock mentality is one that all of the esa (McIntosh) employees unwittingly had no choice but to accept when they cast aside all of the good work done by esa and forced their strange logic on how we all thought the future should be. Their extremely top heavy management and "director of directors" structure beggars belief for what is essentially a company with a mediocre turnover and even though it has lost many major clients its management still has dilusions of grandeur which unfortunately for all have not proved to be with any substance. It is obvious to all who read this discussion that morale is at an all time low in the ivory Havelock tower. Maybe its about time the worm turned and made these people who are or are not in charge take notice. I wish most of the people there all of the best for the future and the ones who I left out are the ones responsible for the ongoing "attitude" that is holding what should be a profitable company back. Get over the us and them attitude, there cant be many esa employees left after the recent culls. move on and prosper or stay stuck in your ways. I know which I would chose if were still there. Good luck !
hasbeen
15/11/2017
13:56
neverforget hasbeen Havelock have been announcing redundancies around the festive period for the last few years. Yet not one departmental director or account director or account type manager has lost his or her job. It is unbelievable that this has been allowed to continue. You have to ask the question why. Who tells who and what. The staff at Havelock have a saying, Havelock reward failure.
truthful tommy2
15/11/2017
12:22
Good post hasbeen please continue. If Havelock was half as big as this management's egos it would be in the ftse100. Haven't seen anything from this new bunch to impress. They have been in for 9 months now!
neverforget
14/11/2017
10:46
Not to mention that this chairman was installed in Feb and signed off on finals outlook and AGM statement and then issued profit warning. Then through Ritchie in it.
neverforget
14/11/2017
10:30
And he is the chairman's mate
neverforget
14/11/2017
08:21
Not surprised really. You've chosen a CEO with some background in thr events management industry. From what I can see it was a company which didn't exactly have any competitors either as it was a fairly unique venue in aviation and doesn't require someone with Branson style entrepreneurial skills to make a profit.By all accounts the only reason you appear to have chosen him was because he needed a job and had held the title of CEO prior !I very much doubt he is so soft though as to not manage to bunker himself in and ensure he has a big fat salary and pension and that there is going to be enough in the coffers to be able to cover this for a good few years.
my retirement fund
14/11/2017
06:43
Crisis of leadership? Looks like new boy is soft and clueless.
neverforget
13/11/2017
16:40
Doesn't sound promising.
lefrene
13/11/2017
16:11
From what I can gather it's someone internal, that's been there for over 40 years, so doubt they'll understand much about manufacturing, outside of Havelock! So looks like more of the same.
cookpeter1958
13/11/2017
15:42
Let's pray it is someone who understands manufacturing !!!!
goodoldays
13/11/2017
15:22
I have heard that they have appointed another Manufacturing Director?
cookpeter1958
13/11/2017
13:08
The new CEO does not understand the business or the company. He has to ask the Director Management department heads, the same ones who have under performed and ruined this company. They tell him everything is good its everybody else. Result the same old cycle of bad incompetent management continues. It will only change when a mass clear out is undertaken.
truthful tommy2
13/11/2017
13:08
The new CEO does not understand the business or the company. He has to ask the Director Management department heads, the same ones who have under performed and ruined this company. They tell him everything is good its everybody else. Result the same old cycle of bad incompetent management continues. It will only change when a mass clear out is undertaken.
truthful tommy2
12/11/2017
14:49
Do tu dears tans why everyone thinks that this new chairman is any good. Did he not authorise the finals? Did he not deliver the AGM statements? Seems he was asleep at the wheel collecting his salary!
neverforget
11/11/2017
22:18
Problem is these highly skilled people have been lead by the likes of EP and DR. Both too af aid to make serious change. Question is is IG and newbie any different? What is AB waiting for? He has to be considering taking the his private, after all IG is cooked without his support.
neverforget
10/11/2017
22:17
One thing wrong here as we all no highly skilled personnel is hard to find especially when the havelock wage structures are the lowest you get for good timed workers ,whom no there jobs , with hind sight how this company work getting rid of good time served men bringing in men whom have never been in this trade have no ideas of basics in the trade hence mistakes (I saw it happen ), truthful tommy speaks like me one whom has and still have good workmates and doesn’t want to see this company go down . One more thing to management listen to time served men on shop floor , listen and take it on board
fifeboy
10/11/2017
21:38
My understanding is that this is round 1. Management is next, they know they are weak. Better to build a Labour base around lower turnover cos it is reality
neverforget
10/11/2017
14:42
Its not a rumor but true they have asked the workforce to take voluntary redundancy. The trouble is HR have been inundated with applicants. Its not foot soldiers that's the problem, but the underperforming idiotic managers that need to be sacked. Until that happens Havelock will be in the same boat next year.
truthful tommy2
10/11/2017
11:48
The BOD need to take voluntary redundancy without pay rather than the workers. Shambles.
clocktower
10/11/2017
11:07
Heard from a Supplier this morning, that Employees are being offered voluntary redundancy again! Not a great sign.
cookpeter1958
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