Harvest Minerals Share Discussion Threads

[kreature] 31/10/2017 14:15

I would think MAPA will be extremely thorough over registration of the dust. Won't be easy imo.

is the chemical test with acid.?:

'Reconsidering stonemeal
In a supplementary report, Ciceri estimates the amount of feldspar that would be necessary to sustain the growth rate of a real commercial crop, such as leeks. The strongly acidic solution he used in his leaching studies might not fully represent soil conditions. However, the action of humic and small organic acids released from roots into natural soils accelerate the rate of potassium ion leaching, bringing it to a value approximated by the acid environment'

[kreature] 31/10/2017 13:09

Yp - do we know how the all important leaching test results turned out yet ??

MAPA says:
' ...these tests may be supplemented by incubation tests or leach columns, which conclusively demonstrate that the product is suitable for the intended purpose.'



RNS - July 2017
Kinetic Studies - Leaching
UFU
Results due Q3

RNS 16th Aug 2017
'Harvest requires the results of the laboratory analysis of the chemical composition of the dry matter, produced during the rice growth tests and the separate leaching test work. Both tests have been completed and analysis is underway with results expected soon.'

[barnsey] 30/10/2017 23:31

I think you will soon realise that HMI are ahead of the curve and indeed do have a
HEAD START You can find negative after negative but you can not stop the progress
being made by the Brazilian authorities and Harvest Minerals re remineralization it
is the future for farming in Brazil.

Hideraldo Coelho from the Ministry of Agriculture spoke about future challenges for enforcing remineralization laws. We need to standardize the regulations and create assessment methods. When the law was being created, some rock dust producers offered their products for testing and control parameters. The products that went through this early testing are almost ready to be registered and enter the market, while other rock dust producers still need to start the testing process. Products that have been tested prior to the norm have a head start in registration to enter the market.

[kreature] 30/10/2017 22:06

Excellent article.

Says, 'today there are many illegal products on the market that are not registered and do not work.'

and, ' It is a priority for the Ministry of Agriculture to rigorously test all products entering the market. All registered products need to work!'

So is it okay to sell rockdust before it has been rigorously tested by and registered with MAPA?....and given that MAPA are likely protecting the farmer and the consumer, how long is rigorous testing and registration likely to take?

Also says, 'During the next few years, quarries and gravel companies will have to register their products in order to sell them as rock dust fertilizer. It is yet unknown how smooth this process will be.'

So what are the chances of it being registered as a remineraliser 'by end of Q4 2017' ?

Doesn't sound much like it will be registered by Christams to me...

'It will only be possible to legally regulate the use of rock dust once we know how each kind of rock dust works as a specific kind of fertilizer (this is necessary to avoid people with malicious intentions selling rock dust that does not work as an effective fertilizer)'

[barnsey] 30/10/2017 20:52

Right Place Right Time would you not conclude.

[kreature] 30/10/2017 17:43

Thanks. Hopefully things work out better than they did at Glasgow University....

'It was concluded that rockdust was not shown to influence plant yield or quality in the agricultural setting of the field trial, nor was it shown to be a useful addition to plant growth media. Therefore rockdust could not be proven to be a useful soil fertility amendment.'

[john henry] 30/10/2017 17:19

Kreature ive sent your posts to the company and await clarification.

[kreature] 30/10/2017 16:59

Overly defensive posts usually come from twitchy traders with fingers over the sell button imo. From what I've read over the weekend, the product is basically generally known as 'Rock Dust' and applying it to the soil is known as 'Rocking'. Though at the moment there's not much sign of rocking replacing traditional fertiliser in Brasil.

As I understand, the demand really has to be fairly local for the rock dust to be economically viable....but what are the chances of a local rock dust replacing everything that an imported carefully matched fertiliser and lime have to offer? Personally I think it's a bit unlikely to be locally matched so easily as a replacement to the traditional fertiliser. ATB

[x54v] 30/10/2017 15:45

This should really start to motor when price breaks out. The sideways consolidation has been going on for long enough now.

[goldguru2017] 30/10/2017 15:17

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[parisv] 30/10/2017 11:34

any thoughts o why you are trying to deceive people by telling them you hold shares kreature?

[john henry] 30/10/2017 11:28

after 11:20 the 12.75p are buys, stamped as sells.

[john henry] 30/10/2017 11:14

Chart looking primed for a breakout. share price has recovered well as buyers came in and bought up the initial selling. Bodes well.
Fantastic growth potential here.

[kreature] 30/10/2017 09:19

Any thoughts on, "no remineralizers on the market that already obey the new legislation"? Out of the whole of Brazil, how many farmers use 'rock dust' instead of traditional fertiliser and lime ? 'Rock Dust' has apparently been around since 1950s according to the video. ...so why was it abandoned in the 1970s if it's so good ?

[kreature] 30/10/2017 00:17

March 2017
'Despite the benefits offered, there are still no remineralizers on the market that already obey the new legislation elaborated by the Ministry of Agriculture and Livestock (Map). Martins, however, makes a forecast that by the end of the year they are already available to the rural producer.'


Minimum requirements to obey the MAPA legistlation contained here:
'INSTRUÇÃO NORMATIVA No 5, DE 10 DE MARÇO DE 2016'

[saucepan] 29/10/2017 23:32

Indeed, DrMaccers. It does not do any harm to be reminded of the track record of Brian MacMaster:

[kreature] 29/10/2017 11:55

The thing is, is there really a competitive advantage over traditional fertilizer ? and is it really economically viable to make such small percentages of the dust available to the plant as K2O etc? and how does the cost of the NaturalPlus dust compare?

[whl2] 29/10/2017 10:46

I think we're all aware of that!

[whl2] 29/10/2017 10:11

Thatis a very good video yp - thanks for sharing

[kreature] 29/10/2017 09:48

Thing is, does the rock dust replace limestone for correcting the pH level of the soil. Or do you still need to use lime?

[saucepan] 29/10/2017 09:19

An interesting video. It adds some useful context to the story unfolding - particularly that the key local players are informed and on side.

Somewhat aside, I myself have also only just caught up with the 12 October, Mark Heyhoe, interview on Proactive. It is worth watching, too, if anyone else has not got round to doing so.



I also took the opportunity to revisit a few of the older videos with Brian MacMaster.

I noted how few "views" these videos have got. That suggests to me that HMI is a Company that is still not on the radar of many private investors.

Getting the license is going to be mega for this Company, but that milestone does indeed look very close now: exciting times!

[kreature] 29/10/2017 08:54

HM should view the rock dust vid, there are some good points that were neglected in the recent ramparoonies. 'Rocking' is now regulated by the government with R$1m fines to enforce those regulations. Seems that rocking began in the 1950s and was abandoned in the 1970s and then the guy in the video sold some NaturalPlus in 2003, and now it has been regulated.....but still very few people seem to be using it ? Dusolo are advertising a bag of dust for around $70 on the internet but not on their website which seems a bit odd. Embrapa is just the research arm of MAPA.
Looks like they are struggling to get farmers interested in rocking