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[spob] 22/8/2012 15:00

how low can this junk go now ?

[spob] 22/8/2012 14:57

As i said

Good short ?

limited upside risk


Ignore my advice at your own risk :)

[trytotakeiteasy] 22/8/2012 14:25

In my view Teachers offer was too low and was also opportunistic...so they got what they deserved..

[trytotakeiteasy] 22/8/2012 12:22

So much for Simon Thomson's advice from Investors Chronicle... to "hang on in there" as Teachers would come up with a better offer..... all these "clever" arb hedge funds have lots a packet.... wonder who voted against.... can they persuade Teachers to pay more and will Teachers come back????

[trytotakeiteasy] 22/8/2012 12:06

Deal blocked as 75% didn't vote for... only about 71%... question now of whether Teachers will walk away or up bid.... as they only need 4% more I would of thought they would be tempted to up the bid slightly.. but we shall see..

[praipus] 15/8/2012 15:54

Thanks, makes sense, interesting tactic.

[trytotakeiteasy] 15/8/2012 15:41

Praipus - issue is whether all the short-term hedge funds can form a blocking stake and force Teachers Pension Fund to pay more..... could happen as acceptances when the deal was announced weren't high...

[praipus] 15/8/2012 15:36

First Eagle still buying now holding 4.88%

[praipus] 08/8/2012 17:57

Intersting to see if First Eagle flip or hold tomorrow.

[killieboy] 08/8/2012 17:42

Patron out........... looks like it will be 144p from Goliath :(

[praipus] 06/8/2012 17:30

First Eagle (post_ 454 WAM thread) )buying another cheeky 225,000 with a CFD holding 1.86%

[trytotakeiteasy] 03/8/2012 10:06

Not sure about Patron making an offer here... going head to head with a US$100bn pension fund.... however, hedge funds have been building stakes so they coudl force Teachers to pay more..... we shall see...

[praipus] 27/7/2012 10:05

First Eagle (post_ 454)buying a anpther cheeky 5,000 with a CFD holding 1.35%


Tracking the rest of their holding and other systematic value arbitrageurs on the WAM thread

[praipus] 25/7/2012 09:00

First Eagle buyign a few more...

[praipus] 24/7/2012 08:58

First Eagle back for some more

[trytotakeiteasy] 23/7/2012 21:31

This looks to be just hedge funds hoovering up stocks as they look to hold on for a higher bid price... bodes well for the Canadians not being accepted on their initial bid.... especially as Patron is in the background...

I think unconditional acceptances are something like 17%.. the fact that a larger chunk of independent stockholders didn't also accept suggests that they are holding out..

[praipus] 23/7/2012 10:08

First Eagle must think higher offer is possible paying £1.4822


Tracking the rest of their holding in post 454 on the WAM thread

[praipus] 23/7/2012 10:06

First Eagle must think higher offer is possible paying £1.4822


Tracking the rest of their holding in post 454 on the WAM thread

[praipus] 23/7/2012 10:05

First Eagle must think higher offer is possible paying £1.4822


Tracking the rest of their holding in post 454 on the WAM thread

[glenowen] 20/7/2012 09:51

And some (i.e you, spob) were touting this as a good short in early June! Looks like you got that one wrong.

[trytotakeiteasy] 20/7/2012 08:35

indeed only about 17% irrevocable undertakings... this looks like a low ball offer.... I hope Patron comes in.....

[penpont] 20/7/2012 08:05

Patron in with statement now - battle on?

[spob] 20/7/2012 07:45

144

i thought some were expecting 160 or more

[trytotakeiteasy] 20/7/2012 07:22

game over??? 144p not generous..... but don't think Patron are really going to come in either....