Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Goals Soccer Centres Plc LSE:GOAL London Ordinary Share GB00B0486M37 ORD 0.25P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 27.20p 0.00p 0.00p - - - 0 01:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Travel & Leisure 33.1 8.2 9.3 2.9 20

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02/7/2012
11:52
If so it's my second in the space of about a month. KWL also had a counter bid and then an increased bid from the first bidder. Maybe people are finally starting to realise these companies have been going cheap.
gerdmuller
02/7/2012
07:58
What next? Are we now effectively in a bidding war? Should we expect some kind of response from the Canadian fund? Interesting.....
penpont
02/7/2012
07:42
spob - see told ya! very bad idea to short a t/o target
aleks_atanasov
12/6/2012
07:38
"Extra time for Canadian fund to net its takeover of Goals Soccer Centres" http://www.heraldscotland.com/business/company-news/extra-time-for-canadian-fund-to-net-its-takeover-of-goals-soccer-centres.17825169 "Goals gets extra time for takeover" http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/goals-gets-extra-time-for-takeover-7837133.html
aleks_atanasov
12/6/2012
06:42
quite the opposite by the way just because you read in the papers that the offer will be 130p doesnt mean it cant be 150p. Papers are useful when they discover a bid, after that i dont pay attention to them.
aleks_atanasov
11/6/2012
17:41
Ontario faffing around must be having doubts
spob
06/6/2012
22:00
Hi my view is that this should be on the balance sheet, not hidden away in the notes, yes its possible to do things like this, and perfectly legal but to me it raises questions of integrity. For an aquirer, hard to say - they pay £65-80m get 9m a year profit / c22p a share cashflow. This is the reason why they would buy it. Or they say the co is very geared, no real asset backing (if you back out the liabilities) they may worry about the downturn on the profit / cashflow of the company. Having said that I think they probably wont, I think they will still buy it as once capex has fallen away there will be enough cash thrown off to cover capital cost easy.
rjmahan
06/6/2012
12:27
I dont think you can compare retail leases with leases for goal soccer. The leases are much lower since they had to build the centre. From the 2010 presentation average rent is 41k per year and average lease length is 62 years. The bottom line is 5 a side football a stable product which is consistently profitable as the centre matures. Retail is always changing, the leases are much higher and if you got something wrong then you get punished straight away. This is a simple business with high barriers to entry which is highly predicatable (except the snow)
sebass
06/6/2012
12:16
too much debt and operating leases too hardly a safe pension fund investment
spob
06/6/2012
12:15
never mind the greek erection this looks high risk to me
spob
06/6/2012
11:07
unless we get a 08 style Lehman event which will further depress the M&A market.. i guess we will have an outcome here before the greek election after that who cares.
aleks_atanasov
06/6/2012
10:52
bid targets are market neutral.
aleks_atanasov
06/6/2012
10:46
really - in this market
spob
06/6/2012
09:51
very very bad idea to short a bid target.
aleks_atanasov
06/6/2012
08:22
How far could these fall if Ontario walks ?
spob
06/6/2012
08:19
Good short ? limited upside risk huge possible downside if the potential bidder sees the light
spob
05/6/2012
18:28
rjmahan.... long-term lease.... so kind of a long-term rental liability... I have to admit I thought they bought their properties..... so can increase risk as for sites that aren't profitable they are still liable..... i.e. Clinton's cards style..... I suppose the alternative would have been to have more debt and buy sites outright....which would have also been risky..... So on balance not sure what to think about it..... you can say that on the one hand it means that a sever downturn exposes goal to fixed lease charges and falling income..... i.e. such as hit Clinton Cards.... I think the long lease nature is a quid pro quo for Goal investing in the sites.... they couldn't invest £2m per site if the lease was for say 5 years... What is your view on it... you clearly believe it makes the company less attractive for an acquirer??
trytotakeiteasy
05/6/2012
17:29
Simon should have gone to specsavers?
2gekko
04/6/2012
23:29
Page 56 as counted by the PDF reader or page 51 via paper - so what do people think ? Simon didnt mention it...
rjmahan
04/6/2012
22:35
Thanks monte1, just seen that and had updated my post
2gekko
04/6/2012
22:31
Page 50/51
monte1
04/6/2012
22:21
rjmahan Its late and my eyesight's not what it used to be but I can't see any mention of that on page 56? The sites are leased and there is some detail on page 51 although they are around 1.85 million for the year
2gekko
04/6/2012
22:03
Page 56 here.... http://www.goalsplc.com/goals/investors/pdfs/annualreport2011.pdf
rjmahan
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