Eden Research Share Discussion Threads

[erinvale] 17/1/2020 17:00

Sorry Tom, not prepared to continue bandying adjectives with you. If Eden can get their marketing in order sales will soar; if not, they’re headed for the (agri) compost heap.

[supersonico] 17/1/2020 16:30

Dump shares says man who can't say Cedroz to other man who can't say Cedroz.

[supersonico] 17/1/2020 16:15

Severe doubts from two fellas with impediments who can't say Cedroz.

[erinvale] 17/1/2020 16:08

JakNife, both the anti-botrytis and nematode products are, to anyone familiar with the agricultural sector, revolutionary and, coupled with the slow release and near-harvest use capability potentially transformative.

That they have sold poorly is largely attributable to two factors: inept management / marketing and the fact that large agri producers who rely on sales of synthetics are unlikely to embrace enviro-friendly alternatives until these are forced upon them by bans on pesticides etc.

I have no doubt about Eden’s products; I have severe doubts about its management.

[supersonico] 17/1/2020 15:03

The Pantomime duo do a late season show.

[supersonico] 17/1/2020 14:44

While the Lube Duo who can't say Cedroz practice their sloppily contrived drivel the Eden management do deals with $14bn Corteva and $11bn Eastman and line up a few more.

[supersonico] 17/1/2020 14:05

Thanks Mirandaj,
So I assume from your response there is no published follow on / or linkage between Metam Sodium and Cedroz so your not able to provide and have not provided any information to contradict Investing's assumption in which you suggest he is misleading readers.

Given your lack of evidence to support your point might I gently suggest that it is your post which is misleading?

I would also add the farmer who's using Metam Sodium is potentially selling into a different market to those using Cedroz who may have an eye on the Organic market.

[erinvale] 17/1/2020 13:27

Mirandaj, Eden has excellent technology. Its problem is that decades of incompetent management has been incapable of commercialising its products in a sustainable way.

Unless Eden can deliver significant revenue growth, it is difficult to envisage a happy future for its long-suffering shareholders.

[mirandaj] 17/1/2020 12:53

Investingisatrickygame,

I occasionally have a quiet look at the posts on the two current ADVFN threads on Eden and am concerned that some people may be being misled by some of the things that you post. You do seem to have set yourself up as some sort of negative PR person who apparently knows it all. I am afraid that actually you clearly do not and it shows in some of the things that you write and you really do post profusely!

It might be helpful for you to relax a little and re-read what the company have announced. Read the research notes and have confidence that Eden Research IS getting there. Yes, it takes time. It always has.

For example on 12th January in post 825 on the other thread you posted with authority that "Cedroz is a replacement Nematicide for Eastman. As it is a one out, one in replacement, does anyone have any idea of what Eastman's previous/existing product had in value and market share terms?"

That is completely incorrect. It has been explained in the past that Eastman has positioned Cedroz with their existing nematicide, Metam Sodium. Metam Sodium is applied prior to planting and it kills nearly everything. Hence it is applied first; after the appropriate time the coverings are removed and planting can begin. AFTER planting Cedroz is then used as a way of controlling nematodes. They always reappear in a relatively short time. That is why Eastman refer to Cedroz as a "post-planting nematicide".

Just a quick google search would have made this clear to you. For instance

Metam Sodium



Here is their page on Cedroz - note: "Cedroz™ post-planting nematicide—where chemistry meets nature"



On Eden's web site:

There was a temporary ban on the use of Metam Sodium in France in 2018 but I don't know the current situation.

You should know that Eden Research are not tied to Metam Sodium as Cedroz works post any fumigation chemical not just Metam.

Most are aware that JakNife and friends have their own agenda and just love to see share prices fall and companies fail. It seems to be in their nature and the way they make money. Each to their own.

Be careful what you write. It is possible to check first.

[supersonico] 16/1/2020 08:14

Come on LUBE

Tell us about..

Death spirals
placings
Jam

but not Cedroz.

[chrischas] 15/1/2020 23:04

If you’ve had a few shares you do start to see a few Trolls that get their kicks from stirring it up. You see it on all kinds of websites.They latch onto the discussion .They can even disappear and comeback as someone else.
It’s possible they have an ulterior motive as has been suggested ,rather than the general no hoper moron by his keyboard (on welfare).I wonder which pop ups we have

[investingisatrickygame] 15/1/2020 15:56

Why don't you all just filter them as I have then you will see nothing, not be affected and have no reason to engage. They'll go away if no one see's their post & responds.