Debenhams Share Discussion Threads

[this_time_its_different] 10/8/2018 08:58

Debenhams Shareholders will get nothing, the lawyers and the debt holders will strip the place apart. Though I don't know who wants to build a store on the grave of Debenhams. They are better off putting a few Starbucks or Greggs at the bottom and building flats at the top.

[debsdowner] 10/8/2018 08:56

Emma Simpson
@BBCEmmaSimpson


So #Houseoffraser going into administration today. Shops continue to trade whilst “significant” progress made on a sale of business and assets. Very sad, but also fairly inevitable conclusion.

[debsdowner] 10/8/2018 08:53

Debenhams and or Beales could well be next!

[debsdowner] 10/8/2018 08:52

The "party" will probably be Philip Day imo !!!!

[owenski] 10/8/2018 08:52

DEB's share price got a lot further to fall yet.

There will be a profit warning coming and then the inevitable downgrades.

[this_time_its_different] 10/8/2018 08:51

Qantas, the share price is below 12p, an all time low. The short interest is through the roof, the market is betting on the death of Debenhams. What don't you understand?

[debsdowner] 10/8/2018 08:51

BBC live:

"Andrew Dalton, director at corporate recovery specialist Begbies Traynor, says: "What it sounds like, and obviously this is an element of speculation, but what it sounds like is there are discussions ongoing with a particular party and that a sale of the business and its assets will conclude either immediately on the appointment of administrators or a short period thereafter."
"They will be picking the assets they feel are going to deliver them the better return on investment. What is clear is that they didn't want the business in its current form."

[ignoble] 10/8/2018 08:50

Good read. ..points taken

[diku] 10/8/2018 08:50

HOF & Debs are in a similar niche market in terms of product & pricing...if one is suffering the other will also be suffering...somebody has to blink first and it happens to be HOF...

[this_time_its_different] 10/8/2018 08:48

Capitalism never fails. Sure, it has a heart attack once in a while, like the great recession of 2008, but it always bounces back. This is because of several reasons, firstly, populations are increasing, this leads to higher and higher demand for goods and grows revenues and EPSs. Secondly, people are greedy, they want things, they want more things. With that combination of materialism and rising populations, capitalism thrives. However the winners over the decades change, jobs will always be created over the long run as long as greed takes over and populations rise.

[qantas] 10/8/2018 08:46

Share price is hammering up.

Please do your own research.

[debsdowner] 10/8/2018 08:46

HOF administration predictable too much debt. BBC live thinks only a small number of stores will be saved.

Despite the rise in Debs shares rise today its not good news for Debenhams they have too many bricks and mortar stores its a dated model.

[ignoble] 10/8/2018 08:44

Capitalism is failing
Need a rethink for the future

[this_time_its_different] 10/8/2018 08:44

Debenhams is doomed to failure, like a previous poster said, the whole physical retail sector is under pressure, this includes good companies like Associated British Foods as well. If Primark is feeling the heat of online competition, what hope does Debenhams have. All their customers are dying and the young are shopping from ASOS and Boohoo. It sums it up really.

[owenski] 10/8/2018 08:40

DEB's share price currently range bound and likely to exit that downwards when the next profit warning hits.

[owenski] 10/8/2018 08:39

DEB's likely to survive in a much smaller form, but stores will be decimated, problem then becomes lower revenue, lower profits, still the need for Capex to keep the offering fresh and they have a debt mountain.

Amazon doesn't need to refresh store formats.

[qantas] 10/8/2018 08:39

Shorts doomed to failure.

Hedge funds always get out before the Jeepers Creepers.



Please do your own research.

[diku] 10/8/2018 08:38

This £1 buyout is becoming very fashionable for the cash & asset rich!...

[this_time_its_different] 10/8/2018 08:37

The way forward is online and next day delivery, you don't need stores or do you need staff to sell items. Click and collect may work as well, but people are naturally lazy so they would rather have it delivered with a few clicks. Jeff Bezos saw this 20 years ago and the fruits of labour are occurring now. The high street will vanish eventually, all you will see is store fronts with advertising boards and automated click and collect pods.

[ignoble] 10/8/2018 08:35

Over the years, landlords charged ridiculous rents for retail space ...they will surely suffer as retail consolidates.
Old fashioned idea of the more stores you have the bigger the profits now seems rather outdated as retail has changed.
Quality not quantity may appear the way forward.
Who knows ?
The strong will survive and prosper
Hopefully ...

[this_time_its_different] 10/8/2018 08:35

I'm still confident Debenhams will call in administrators before Christmas, eagerly waiting the next trading update.

[owenski] 10/8/2018 08:35

HoF will probably be another token £1 buyout and buyer takes all the risk but saves some jobs.

[diku] 10/8/2018 08:34

And Amazon is close to $1 trillion company...how much tax are they paying in UK?...

[this_time_its_different] 10/8/2018 08:32

Debenhams is next, House of Fraser has gone into administration. Time is up boys. Amazon continues to kill the high street.