Dart Share Discussion Threads

[snorkelparker] 18/7/2019 15:59

Looking wrong.. No sell down into the close for a change

[tongosti] 18/7/2019 15:49

SP - would be interesting if you receive an answer from the wanger & wobble duo. That’s because they:

1. Do not care about daily moves (so they say until they are -60% down or so ... so whatever...)

2. Believe timing and short term prediction is impossible (for them this is certainly beyond their v limited capacities)

3. Technical analysis does not apply to the DTG farm (whatever this means)

...

[snorkelparker] 18/7/2019 15:28

Close at the low for the day on a little push down is my prediction

[snorkelparker] 18/7/2019 15:27

Sell off into the close...?

[woozle1] 18/7/2019 14:01

It would make more sense for Fosun to bid for Dart than waste its money on TCG. That said, I'm pretty sure that the TCG recap does not happen on the current terms. Bondholders and banks are very unlikely to accept 25% of the company on a d4e swap. The bonds are owned by distressed investors who will want much more of the new entity. I think that the announcement was designed to see TCG through the summer. The real trouble will start in a month or two.
w1

[snorkelparker] 18/7/2019 13:47

Might be a good offer seeing as they are prepared to put best part of a bill into a dog.. Lol

[pjleeds] 18/7/2019 13:37

Strange, if it gets much stranger, Fosun might get involved.

[snorkelparker] 18/7/2019 13:32

Down from 780 to 769 on a fraction of the volume that took it up to 785 earlier.. Strange.. Or is it me misreading things.

[tongosti] 18/7/2019 13:06

wanger and wobble - happy to have touched a nerve with your both.

Keep it coming you muppets. btw, I have you both filtered you halfwits and no interest in your stupidity (Mr Market is the judge!) but always happy to see you post as your nicknames are a good counter indicator.

addios

[woozle1] 18/7/2019 12:57

When you've lost thousands, a couple of hundred quid must feel good. That might just cover the monthly utility bill.
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[tongosti] 18/7/2019 12:56

there he is - the one and only...mr wanger himself. enjoy the ride ...

[wagnerlove] 18/7/2019 12:54

Tongo mate, funny you trying to do a victory dance after a little drop to people who are still sitting on 100% or 200% plus gains on this stock. You blew up shorting this before in the 400p range. Saddest thing is that with the thousands of stocks in the world you could try your yahoo finance chart BS you only seem to post on this one. Obsessed? Enjoy the £300 or whatever you have made this time, hope it soothes the pain for all your other losses over the years, you crisp-munching sad case.

[tongosti] 18/7/2019 12:36

Btw, where on earth is wanger these days? His halfwit brother just made an appearance...Tic toc

[tongosti] 18/7/2019 12:35

Whatever pal - you should check your history books as those lofty PEs you mention are the province of genuine tech disrupters not an airliner/holiday carrier.

Don’t think you really grasp the concept that the future is a continuum of “nows” and it is in this precise context I made my point.

translation: if right "now" even DTG feels like it has to catch up with market expectations + with PM feeling this current period is a real grind, then markets - which are far more intuitive than wangers & wobbles of the world make of them - can go down a good quite bit.

By how much I hear you say? Answer: no one knows.

What if (mind you, it's not a projection but simply a hypothetical scenario) markets happen to go to your original buy price three years back (and don't tell me it is out of the realm of possibilities - we all know markets are capable of anything in this world)? Don't you think that puts your longer term in another context?

Let’s leave it at this and better step back and await the entertainment that comes online regularly on this board from the wanger and wobble duo.

[woozle1] 18/7/2019 12:05

That's great news as Tongo is about to be carried out again. I think we must enter him for the Darwin Investor Awards!
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[hatfullofsky] 18/7/2019 12:02

We are currently priced for disaster not for perfection. Priced for perfection would be a PE over 40

[snorkelparker] 18/7/2019 11:49

See if this gets knocked down again..

[tongosti] 18/7/2019 09:44

Hat - perfectly fine to deal in quarters and years and happy for you but my point of the company being priced for perfection (as implicitly recognised by DTG's latest release [i.e. we are "optimistic in meeting existing market expectations"]) is beyond commentary. And that was precisely my point.

Good luck to you too.

[hatfullofsky] 18/7/2019 09:16

We had 21% passenger growth, just reported EZJ 8% and are up 3.5% and trending upwards. Only a matter of time.

Tong - I'm an investor I don't deal in days, I deal in Quarters and Years. My first buy was 12/10/16 @ 389p

Good luck with your short

[castleford tiger] 18/7/2019 08:50

in 30 mins this morning
2 people bought 65 shares
2 bought 66
3 bought 67

That's weird.

lots of repeat multiple trades

[snorkelparker] 18/7/2019 08:47

Very strange price action I think that 85 cents eps in in the bag.. This would provide support and that might be the case now.. But is the following year being discounted with the fears of brexit, GBP ect.. If usd went to parity and euro remained strong then there is a big headache... Also is the fact that relative short term movements can be manipulated where shares are thinly traded.. I don't doubt that sellers have emerged but no disclosure of shorts.. So wonder if bigger players are walking this stock down and flushing out wesker hands.. I don't know but certainly is the norm in asain markets to play stocks like this irrespective of the companies fundamentals for a period.. Trouble is after a ramp down people are shy for a period of time.. Hence needs news to climb back up.. Be nice if the inheritance tax law changed and dtg went to the main board

[tongosti] 18/7/2019 07:33

hatfullofsky16 Jul '19 - 10:57 - 6047 of 6084
0 0 0
In other words, everything is in the price and the price stalling for a year may very well be a precursor of an immediate leg down which will catch many by surprise. - Rubbish


In light of latest market action + of what Tiger mentioned yesterday coming directly from PM ... I rest my case (and leave it up to you to decide who's speaking ... rubbish!)

[tongosti] 18/7/2019 07:05

Agreed CT - been always saying that market perceptions are far, far more relevant in shorter terms than any valuation metric.

We all know markets have a capability of doing the unthinkable (only fools of the wanger and wobble variety believe otherwise - as in the holy power of set-in-stone 35% FCF Yields etc). Always have, always will - it’s the nature of the beast.

[mrfixituk] 17/7/2019 21:35

As possibly mentioned before other factors are dragging on Dart. Thomas Cook, Currency and Airport strikes. Share dealing is never easy!!!