Cap-xx Share Discussion Threads

[grahamwales] 11/2/2021 20:40

Maurice

I take it you know the difference between capacitors and supercapacitors. Cap-xx don’t manufacture capacitors.

[grahamwales] 11/2/2021 18:49

Charles. Supercapacitors have been around for years and achieved no real progress unlike batteries. Never say never.

[globalwill] 11/2/2021 18:49

The guy is a serial basher of this share and has been for years. Reminds me of Openspaces on LSE. Definitely has a motive.

[grahamwales] 11/2/2021 18:48

Richsydenham. So you drove for 4 hours and you had to stop for electric. If you had driven a petrol or diesel car for 4 hours would you have not stopped for fuel.

I drive a Tesla and if I’m doing long journeys I plan my trip to stop at Tesla Superchargers. Yes it takes longer but to be honest stopping for 30 minutes to have a coffee is a great way to relax after fill up after a long journey.

[charlesjames1] 11/2/2021 17:18

From someone who has a Masters Degree in Electrical Engineering I can categorically tell you that batteries will not be replacing capacitors. And people listen to this person. Strewth.

[richsydenham] 11/2/2021 14:51

I drove a tesla for 6 months last year. Frankly I was very dissapointed in the range and the charging speed. If you are deiving short distances all the time its great but if you have to drive a 2 hr return trip you have to stop. The range it tells you is around 10-20% wrong so you have to calculate yourself if you will make your destination. The charging is super fast for 10 mins or so but the very slow. Oh and if it rains then knock off another 10% off the range

[mauricemonkey] 11/2/2021 14:16

Charge at. Great.

Check out what happens to Teslas when they do rapid succession high power runs.

hxxps://youtu.be/4FGOrzXL0kw

And do you really, really, think there aren't any capacitors in the charging circuits? Seriously?

[valuetracker] 11/2/2021 13:11

See you in 11 months. Back to hibernation. Might pick a few up at 7p

[grahamwales] 11/2/2021 12:59

Maurice

Check out the rate Tesla cars charge at without overheating

[grahamwales] 11/2/2021 12:34

Dosey

I sold at 14p hence why I have no axe to grind. Orders are up because they have taken on the work previously done by Murata for which CPX used to receive a royalty.

[mauricemonkey] 11/2/2021 12:25

No you didn't. Batteries can't manage the very high discharge rates required without overheating. And you really, really, don't want a lithium battery overheating.
So yes batteries are getting better, but they won't replace power electronics.

Also, batteries are no good for things like filtering circuits and other instant power items around the vehicle.

Supercapacitors were meant to be the next big thing in replacing batteries, but I expect the future to be a hybrid of both, batteries for power storage, capacitors for high power, short duration discharge, including in vehicles.

[dozey3] 11/2/2021 12:23

If the order book is up 100% year on year that says something surely. Perhaps, Graham, you are wishing you’d held onto those 1p shares ‘many moons’ ago and gotten yourself a ten-bagger. Best move on.

[grahamwales] 11/2/2021 11:42

No you didn’t I never said supercapacitors were going to replace batteries what I said was that batteries were getting similar qualities to supercapacitors. So why would you need a supercapacitor that doesn’t hold sufficient charge to power a torch let alone an EV.

Therefore battery will actually replace supercapacitors at some stage

[mauricemonkey] 11/2/2021 11:36

Read the post again, I answered your questions already.

Further "super" capacitors don't do anything that wasn't already possible in power electronics - they do it on a smaller scale. Just like microchips didn't do anything that wasn't already possible in electronic circuit design when they first came out - it's just a development of miniaturisation and performance improvement.

[grahamwales] 11/2/2021 11:14

Maurice.

How do you see supercapacitors helping out the automotive industry?

How many supercapacitors are currently in EV’s.

Batteries are slowly catching up supercapacitor qualities.

Hybrid vehicles will eventually be phased out which was supposed to be another area that CPX were targeting with their truck battery.

[mauricemonkey] 11/2/2021 11:02

Err, Graham, suprecapacitors aren't there to replace batteries, they're required to help the batteries be able to provide large amounts of power at short notice, and they help with heat management too. They're also used as part of filter networks to keep power delivery smooth and stop rogue frequencies generated by the high power electronics interfering with the operation of the car.

[grahamwales] 11/2/2021 10:44

Tony P

In answer to your question I see conventional lithium/nickel batteries as more of a threat to supercapacitors. Tesla taking on maxwell was for the tech to reduce charging times on batteries something that supercapacitors had a massive advantage. Obviously there will be a market for supercapacitors in certain products. Medical devices for example.

Murata since buying Sony battery have no doubt picked up patents from them which may have been the reason for them pulling out of the CPX deal.

Still not seen much of graphene supercapacitors yet not even sure they will become a viable product.

[aiming] 11/2/2021 09:08

It is all very positive, CPX is transitioning to producer and expanding it's products, huge amount happening and order book over flowing....profits will come and best to be in ahead of confirmation as the share price will be climbing over coming months imo as it all develops

[grahamwales] 11/2/2021 08:59

Guys I notice the comments from James on lse. I have no axe to grind with CPX or kongats, however he does seem to quote future potential orders constantly.

Ever since I was in here many moons ago from 1p they have talked about automotive and mobile phones.

Ask yourself why would Murata sell the equipment to CPX for cost if they themselves were making a profit from selling supercapacitors. I honestly believed that supercapacitor would solve the problem for quick charging battery operated devices and cars, however the likes of Tesla and other battery manufacturers seemed to have developed better batteries that not only charge quicker but last longer and hold more capacity.

My last post was brief but the fact still remains that yes they had to get approval to supply existing Murata customers but margins are tight and there won’t be much profit from them if any. Losses continue to grow and year end won’t be any different.

Obviously these are just my opinions hence why I suggest you do your own research.

Best of luck

[sapper2476] 11/2/2021 08:19

Cap xx have already won a number of patent infringement cases.

[drobinson1991] 11/2/2021 07:50

Interesting RNS that came out this morning regarding IQE plc who won an out of court settlement of $2.5m for patent infringement. Shows the courts are defending companies intellectual property! Good news for them and sets a good precedent along the road...

[jeanesy] 10/2/2021 19:04

Some pretty persistent selling going on still.

[browney1] 10/2/2021 10:30

Thanks Bomber for the concise summation. Currently sells seems to be small holders being shaken out with small average trades. Technicals still sound.