Byotrol Share Discussion Threads

[kumbuka] 18/4/2024 11:57

Thank you sikhthetech.

The rampers led by stupid mudbath followed by doughy, pigsbladder and 1gw keep trying to convince more mugs to buy in to save them from huge losses.

[mudbath] 18/4/2024 11:45

A further "year or two" could see Byotrol in a pretty pickle.
They already have the existing £1million loan to service and to repay; yet are now seeking a further "small" fundraise in an amount that equates to its much diminished market cap.
Byotrol is already lossmaking; so one has to ponder just how long any £500k of "new money" will last.
Your "payback" may indeed be "not 0.05" for the PI ranks pretty lowly should it come to picking over Byotrol's carcass.

Gloomy here as well !

[brownson] 18/4/2024 11:04

Mud bath. So true. Year after year we were told the plan was working and that profitability was around the corner. The failure to capitalise on the opportunity of a pandemic should have set alarm bells ringing. If Solvay and others really believed in the products, they could have bought the company with their coffee money. The fact that they didn’t says it all. Likewise Tristel. I used to think residual biocidal effect was a good idea but I now think it’s irrelevant. Seaweed might be useful in 10 years but with the current management, it will be another wasted opportunity even if it has an effect. Gloomy.

[mudbath] 18/4/2024 09:54

As I remember it, promising upcoming "very good years" has been part and parcel of the Byotrol rhetoric over the past two decades; whereas the actuality has been a litany of bad management decisions leading to an ever increasing rate of value distruction for the private investor.
On or off market, Byotrol looks doomed to early failure if the existing Bod and staffing levels are persevered with.

[football] 18/4/2024 09:36

Seems that way maxk has I remember Jane saying 2024 is going to be a very good year But is that for Byotrol or management

[brownson] 18/4/2024 09:35

Because he is clueless. He should be the first redundancy

[maxk] 18/4/2024 08:03

With his last purchase, Traynor now holds 3% of the company. Why would he do that if there wasnt a clear benefit (for him) in the offing?

[loafofbread] 18/4/2024 07:44

Someone still happy to buy up all the loose stock.

Another 1% yesterday and more of the same today.

[sikhthetech] 17/4/2024 17:35

Brownson

"Unless delisting results in a complete change of management, the company will continue to slide and slowly die."

Exactly. It doesn't matter if a company which has been in decline for years is listed or not. Trust with the BoD was lost ages ago. Without a change of BoD, the company will continue in it's current path.

As a private company, it will be virtually impossible to change management or hold them accountable.

[sikhthetech] 17/4/2024 17:30

Kumbuka,

"Administration, delisting then administration but not a viable profitable business as it was all built on hot air and promise."

Absolutely.

The company were given a golden opportunity when covid hit. It was obvious during the summer of 2020 that they have failed to seize that opportunity. Instead hoping that their products are so unique that they will automatically sell out fast.
The obvious problem, which I stated before, was they should have raised money via a placing once it was obvious Covid was a pandemic and then marketed their products.
Even if consumer wasn't their main market, the marketing would have resulted in significant exposure worldwide. Something as simple as agreeing with Boots or supermarkets to market their products at end of shelf would have helped.

Whenever there is significant demand for a product, other companies will enter the market. That is obvious and I stated it at the time. Repeat sales is always a good indicator of whether a product is successful.

It was obvious from company rns' that sales were slowing, despite what 1gw and his mates were claiming.

There was lots of jam tomorrow, hence the current situation.

Understanding the business model is a lot more important than picking out comments about financials from reports, don't you think 1gw?


As before, you make a dodgy 2nd hand car salesman sound honest. How many multiple ids do you have and why?



There you go, lots of jam tomorrow.. as expected..
sikhthetech - 18 Aug 2021 - 20:01:53 - 8523 of 9214
1gw

"Solvay has been jam yesterday, jam today and will be jam tomorrow."

Given the Solvay deal was signed years ago and it's jam yesterday, today and tomorrow, they must be earning millions from the deal.
How many millions have Byot earnt from them?

How many millions have the other partnerships earnt? Enough to complete your £17m revenues???. We'll know tomorrow, won't we?

[brownson] 17/4/2024 16:44

Unless delisting results in a complete change of management, the company will continue to slide and slowly die. What was required was root and branch change with a 50% reduction in staff.

[loafofbread] 17/4/2024 07:16

At least his new share holder register won't take up more than a page or two, judging by all the small sale exits.

[kumbuka] 16/4/2024 09:16

Pigsbladder has bet the kitchen sink on BYOT and now he’s hurting. Do I have sympathy for him, NO, because he kept trying to ramp, lure more mugs in where it was clear where this was going.

Administration, delisting then administration but not a viable profitable business as it was all built on hot air and promise.

[kumbuka] 16/4/2024 09:11

The writing is on the wall Microscope. Most can see it but stupid mudbath and his 3 mugs just can’t face the facts.

[microscope] 16/4/2024 09:08

I'd pretty much expect this to remain moribund now until delisting. Cards seem to have been played for the most part.A few more sellers as they see it's going nowhere perhaps, or the occasional spike from penny traders unaware of the full story, but generally defeat for the board, while, arguably, desirable, feels unlikely.So people either stick with it through delisting and hope for something of an eventual recovery, or sell meantime, is, fwiw, my take.

[kumbuka] 16/4/2024 09:06

Mr & Mrs Newland OUT

Lim Teck Lee Investments OUT

But still stupid mudbath, doughy, pigsbladder and 1gw try convincing other mugs they should keep faith is this great company or are they trying to convince themselves.

Wake up boys you have backed a loser.

[kumbuka] 16/4/2024 09:02

That’s where BYOT is going doughy.

[mudbath] 15/4/2024 20:00

Medimark Scientific
For a consideration of £4.5million Byotrol envisaged:-

"Immediately provides Byotrol with greater scale than could be achieved through current rates of organic growth. Medimark is profitable and cash generative and fits extremely well with Byotrol's existing products and technology.
· Expected to be materially earnings enhancing in first year from acquisition. The combination of the two businesses will greatly accelerate Byotrol's growth profile whilst significantly reducing the execution risk from purely organic expansion.
· Highly complementary acquisition, offering extensive sales, marketing and distribution expertise in Byotrol's core markets. Specific complementarity with Byotrol's Professional and Petcare businesses with significant synergies expected over time, including:· Enhanced distribution of Byotrol technologies to Medimark customers, in the UK and overseas, boosting economies of scale, distribution and market segment expertise

· Highly experienced, well-connected and resilient sales team and sales support

· Introduction of stronger disinfectant technologies to Byotrol portfolio including a proprietary sporicidal formulation

· Doubles Byotrol workforce, creating immediate critical mass with cost synergies available from bringing Medimark technical work in house.

· Medimark is on track to deliver EBITDA of £500k for the full year to March 2019, which will trigger the first earn-out payment
· Executive management staying with the combined business for the earnout and beyond, with incentives closely aligned with Byotrol shareholders. Executive management locked-in from share sales for three years from completion."

Following the Acquisition, it is expected that Byotrol will have cash balances in excess of £2.5m, providing more than sufficient resource to drive growth of the combined businesses."

Add in a subsequent pandemic and one has to seriously question the competence of Byotrol's managegement when current reality includes a possible delisting and yet another upcoming cash call.

[cliffpeat] 15/4/2024 18:10

Not a sign of confidence is it?

[loafofbread] 15/4/2024 17:39

Quite unbelievable that two of DT long term supporters have dumped the lot.

At this rate you will be his new best mate!

Joking aside you have to wonder where they have all gone?

[1gw] 15/4/2024 15:47

I agree. So that would be 17.6m shares sold (3.88%) from the position on the website which appears to have been as of 7th March. That's in addition to the at least 15m or so (at least 3.24%) the Newlands must have sold to go under 3%.

Those were 2 of the largest 4 shareholders.

Given the lack of holdings notices on the buy side, it makes me wonder where those shares have ended up and how they might be voted.