Byotrol Share Discussion Threads

[sikhthetech] 25/2/2020 21:52

1gw,
what % of your Byot holding did you sell?

Was it materially above your ideal portfolio weighting?

[1gw] 25/2/2020 20:55

I think perhaps, stt, you don't really understand the investment case here. Have you tried ringing the investor relations contact to discuss it?

[sikhthetech] 25/2/2020 20:42

The share price is higher than last May, before the long slide..
The issues causing the share price slide are still there, aren't they???



Last May when the share price was lower:

1) Byot were close to signing a 2nd national retailer
2) Byot had the Tesco contract which served them well
3) No one was expecting any accounting irregularities
4) Trial at Target extended to more sites and was expecting even more.
etc


Now the share price is higher but:
1) 2nd national retailer NEVER SIGNED, WHY?
2) Byot LOST the TESCO CONTRACT, no replacement announced
3) ACCOUNTS NOT QUALIFIED
4) appointed an agency (costing money) in US and STILL seeking partnerships
5) Trial at Target ENDS NEXT month but so far not rolled out to all stores..
etc etc

The share price is now significantly higher based on HOPE and without any of those issues, which caused the share price to fall, being resolved.

Do you agree, 1gw?

[sikhthetech] 25/2/2020 20:38

1gw, why would you be selling when the outbreak is in it's early stages...
Only yesterday you were suggesting onwards and upwards and the share price rises today..
coincidence??

Those multiple trades/cancelled trades.. eh?
I hope those cancelled trades don't track back to you or your mates with the multiple ids...
;-)


Btw, you're free to filter me. Why are you and your mates desperate for others to filter but won't do so yourself????


1gw24 Feb '20 - 21:38 - 4579 of 4589
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Looking at Yahoo! Finance data it seems to me that today's closing price of 3.30 tops the 5th March 2019 closing high of 3.26. And the 14th Feb intra-day peak of 3.60 is already well above the 5th March & 6th March intra-day peaks of 3.40.

So, onwards and upwards, possibly?

[1gw] 25/2/2020 19:31

Managed to get some away today at 3.3p, although I have to say it's felt a bit like someone's been frontrunning me at times since I declared my intent in post 4485.

And since it must be getting extremely tedious for anyone who hasn't yet filtered the troll, with the constant innuendo from him about pump and dump, cancelled trades, selling large volumes, I will declare that my activity on byotrol in February has been:

300k sold in total on 14th and 17th Feb (3.3p)
300k bought on 17th Feb (2.7p, 2.8p)
400k sold today (3.3p)

All those trades have been done in 100k lots.

That leaves me with some of the speculative (i.e. after the spike started) 31st January 2.3p purchases still to sell and I would still like to get 3.3p+. But if the price falls back again far enough I shall probably add again. The much bigger position I built up over the 2+ years before the 31st Jan purchase is intact.

Enough transparency?


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1gw - 17 Feb 2020 - 19:33:53 - 4485 of 4589

If you do the maths, stt, you will find that portfolio weight is higher at 3.3p than it is at 2.7p or 2.8p, assuming other holdings are unchanged. But should we get above 3.3p again I will probably again look to reduce.

[slicethepie] 25/2/2020 15:32

If you're so desperate for some product try Medimark ....I am sure they will be able to help you!But that's not what you're after is it?

[sikhthetech] 25/2/2020 15:19

Boots, Out of stock online for over 3 weeks now.

Check the UK Capital Cities:
London - NO stores with stock
Cardiff - 1 store 12m away in Blackwood
Edinburgh - NO stores with stock
Belfast - 1 store over 7m away in Lisburn






However, search Superdrug stores for 'hand sanitiser' returns 100ml bottles for £1.25 and BOGOF (Buy 1 Get 1 Free)!!

Check the 4 UK Capital Cities and stores have it in stock.




200ml 'hand sanitiser' from Superdrug for £1.25, compared to 200ml bottle Byot based, from Boots for £5.19.



Weeks without stock and that's without a major outbreak in UK...
Loss of potential customers.
Do Byot have supply chain problems? Will they be able to supply soon?

[slicethepie] 25/2/2020 14:23

Guess who posted this on Friday? Eh stt Post 4540 Brownson"I fear byotrol has missed the boat. ""The public (and commercial customers) will have forgotten all about this in another couple of weeks."Exactly. Covid-19 isn't even front page news anymore.And now you are busy searching for hand sanitiser!

[sikhthetech] 25/2/2020 14:16

As per NHS advice to use Soap and water or 'hand sanitiser gel'...

Do a search for 'hand sanitiser gel'.


Amazon/Superdrug returns:

DEFENDOL Hospital Grade hand sanitiser.

£3.49 at Superdrugs...


Kills 99.99% of germs
Has BS EN 1040 and EN 1500 approved marks.
And it's kind to the skin.


Is it Byot's???

[rivaldo] 25/2/2020 10:35

Press release from Medi-mark's web site:



"WORRIED ABOUT CORONAVIRUS?

Following the recent outbreak of Coronavirus in China and the extent to which this latest outbreak has been covered in the news and by statement issued by WHO, organisations associated with infection control will naturally begin to review their own cross infection control guidelines and portfolio of products employed in combating the threat of this disease to the UK. Whilst there is of course an elevated demand for these types of products, our company is taking steps to ensure that wherever possible, our stocking position and that of our distribution partners is not impacted by interruptions or unnatural high demand from external sources. For those institutions looking to review the options of products available, we offer the following advice: -

Coronaviruses are enveloped viruses with a positive-sense single-stranded RNA genome, belonging to the Group IV viruses according to the Baltimore classification. Medimark Scientific supply a host of products that claim and infer efficacy against Coronavirus at varying concentrations.

The HLD4 formula used in a host of our products, including ANIGENE HLD4 and CHEMGENE HLD4 has been tested against not only other Group IV positive sense single strand viruses under the EN14476 test protocol (such as Caliciviridae), but also enveloped viruses supporting the claim for efficacy against Coronavirus.
AIRGENE Aerosol Disinfectant is effective within the application contact time recommended.
CHEMGENE NaDCC and ANIGENE NaDCC when used at 1000ppm (1 tablet per litre) are also effective against Coronavirus..
TRIONIC D Surface disinfectant for medical devices and AIRGENE Aerosol disinfectant have been tested to be effective against Coronavirus
INVIRTU alcohol-free hand foam sanitiser effective against enveloped viruses, including strains of Coronavirus within 30 seconds.

We are also able to supply CHEMGENE ALCOGEL 70% Ethanol, which is available in 50ml and 100ml bottles for portable use.

Products can be ordered from our website -

For more information, please email [e-mail]"

[supernumerary] 25/2/2020 00:04

A.F - I think you meant:

DEADLY GLOBAL PANDEMIC SPREADING LIKE WILD FIRE AROUND THE WORLD.

max - yeah, more pandemics, so byot can qualify its accounts properly - that's what we need. And we need them now!

[maxk] 24/2/2020 23:56

Pandemics are a dime a dozen.

BYOT always seems to miss the boat.

[a.fewbob] 24/2/2020 23:03

You missed:

DEADLY GLOBAL PANDEMIC SPREADING LIKE WILD FIRE AROUND THE WORLD.

[sikhthetech] 24/2/2020 21:48

Last May when the share price was significantly lower:

1) Byot were close to signing a 2nd national retailer
2) Byot had the Tesco contract which served them well
3) No one was expecting any accounting irregularities
4) Trial at Target extended to more sites...
etc

Now the share price is higher but:
1) 2nd national retailer WALKED AWAY.
2) Byot LOST THE TESCO CONTRACT, so loss of income and no replacement
3) Accounts NOT QUALIFIED
4) appointed an agency (costing money) in US and STILL SEEKING
partnerships
5) Trial at Target ENDS END OF NEXT MONTH but not rolled out to all stores..
etc etc

So the share price is higher based on HOPE and without any of those issues, which caused the share price to fall, being resolved.

[1gw] 24/2/2020 21:38

Looking at Yahoo! Finance data it seems to me that today's closing price of 3.30 tops the 5th March 2019 closing high of 3.26. And the 14th Feb intra-day peak of 3.60 is already well above the 5th March & 6th March intra-day peaks of 3.40.

So, onwards and upwards, possibly?

[sikhthetech] 24/2/2020 20:34

Over 3 weeks now, 50ml/200ml bottles still sold out...Supply chain problems???


Potential customers will buy alternative 'alcohol' based products and probably enough to last them for weeks...

Loss of Potential customers...

[slicethepie] 24/2/2020 20:11

Guess who posted this on Friday? Eh stt Post 4540 Brownson"I fear byotrol has missed the boat. ""The public (and commercial customers) will have forgotten all about this in another couple of weeks."Exactly. Covid-19 isn't even front page news anymore.

[sikhthetech] 24/2/2020 18:15

If you were looking for hand sanitiser, would you follow WHO, CDC or Dettol's advice to use an Alcohol based sanitiser or would you use Byot's non-alcohol based sanitiser?

Obviously the public would ignore WHO/CDC advice and listen to BYOT...

honest guv...
;-)



WHO:

"Wash your hands frequently with soap and water or use an alcohol-based hand rub if your hands are not visibly dirty."




CDC:

"If soap and water are not readily available, use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer with at least 60% alcohol. Always wash hands with soap and water if hands are visibly dirty."




Dettol:

"If soap and water are not available, use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer"



BYOT:

"Whilst the World Health Organisation (WHO) advises the public to use an alcohol-based hand rub, the average antibacterial hand gel found in local supermarkets, pharmacies or airports may not be effective against viruses."

[tanneg] 24/2/2020 17:29

From Tristel's RNS this morning,

"We are currently experiencing Covid-19. This viral outbreak, together with the ever-present threat of anti-microbial resistance, will be a powerful influence on global healthcare systems for greater investment in infection prevention and control."

[sikhthetech] 24/2/2020 17:08

Posters getting desperate...


sikhthetech14 Feb '20 - 11:28 - 4406 of 4558 -8.998 1 2
You have a number of posters on this thread who have been in for years, have been wrong for years, and have a huge vested interest in seeing the shareprice recover - and they are not shy at underplaying the risk, overplaying the potential, and playing dirty to try to discredit anyone who dares to present contrarian views and facts from the Company rns'. The ONLY way they can entice newbies in is targeting anyone with contrarian views or those posting facts from the company rns'. Wonder why???

[slicethepie] 24/2/2020 16:47

He did hit the magic 25000 posts, no doubt the badge will make up for the 5 pounds he is down on totally!

[pugugly] 24/2/2020 15:53

TLY- Down 4.4%
BYOT -Up 15.2%
Now who is losing face today?

[sikhthetech] 24/2/2020 15:27

I see there was a cancelled trade from Fri, reported today..

Obviously, 1gw and his mates won't be selling any yet, will you 1gw???

[sikhthetech] 24/2/2020 10:35

If you were looking for hand sanitiser, would you follow WHO, CDC or Dettol's advice to use an Alcohol based sanitiser or would you use Byot's non-alcohol based sanitiser?
Obviously the public would ignore WHO/CDC advice and listen to BYOT...

honest guv...
;-)



WHO:
"Wash your hands frequently with soap and water or use an alcohol-based hand rub if your hands are not visibly dirty."


CDC:
"If soap and water are not readily available, use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer with at least 60% alcohol. Always wash hands with soap and water if hands are visibly dirty."


Dettol:
"If soap and water are not available, use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer"



BYOT:
"Whilst the World Health Organisation (WHO) advises the public to use an alcohol-based hand rub, the average antibacterial hand gel found in local supermarkets, pharmacies or airports may not be effective against viruses."