Bt Share Discussion Threads

[excell1] 14/12/2016 12:30

Just buy them,keep them and take the dividends.

[montyhedge] 14/12/2016 11:15

DikuYou can never catch high and low.Like backing a horse instead of 20.1 you get it at 10.1 as long as it wins does not matter, lol

[pierre oreilly] 14/12/2016 10:50

Diku, i don't think it's ever good 'just to tade'.

Some watchdog or other has launched an investigation into spread betting because 82% of punters lose.

Fortunately, advfn only has the 18% which win, lucky us.

[diku] 14/12/2016 10:44

monty...at times its best to just trade...buy around 345p & sell around 365p...forget about the divi...

[montyhedge] 14/12/2016 10:41

Yes, we all know BT are ridiculous good value, Henry Dixon confirmed it this morning said he liked it.Come on Woodford get back in he sold around 435p so at 360p with a divi to come as well, good trade.

[diku] 14/12/2016 09:55

monty....I did tell you watch 344p level...twice it hit & bounced...

[montyhedge] 14/12/2016 09:53

These are going higher, if that's the way Fund managers are thinking.Going by the top fund manager this morning on CNBC who like BT.If Woodford gets back in add 15p to shareprice straight away.

[montyhedge] 14/12/2016 09:20

Wow BT just been tipped on CNBC by the guest fund manager, saying higher rates will help the pension deficit. I see 410p new year boys.4.85p div as well.Also he said BT is the one to buy over Vodafone.

[montyhedge] 14/12/2016 08:39

Fund managers went to see Sharon White and her cronies, I hope they told her what Ofcom doing to BT shareprice, down 25% since all this started. I see us back over 400p in the new year.Divi ex Dec 29th. 4.85p nice present from Santa.

[pacemaker1000] 13/12/2016 23:10

Tonio. I suppose best way to think of it is renting the physical connection back to the exchange. Which unlike, say electricity, is an individual connection.
There is a case that in future without a landline then perhaps this cost should be reduced as you'd be renting less cable. I.e. Just to the cab?

[diku] 13/12/2016 21:54

monty no;1....stop playing golf & get back here pronto...the day you not here BT gone up...

[mornington crescent] 13/12/2016 21:33

tonio
"Privelege" ????
wtf

I begin to think you may have a lobotomy

You buy a season ticket on British Rail - you expect them to charge you for line rental ?
The cost is in the ticket for gods sake

jeez

[spendalot] 13/12/2016 20:15

believe that Sky and Talk Talk will be in bother with OFCOM presently.

[tonio] 13/12/2016 19:55

Well as customers we pay BT for the privilege - if that's the right word -of using their network, which has to be maintained. If we don't pay who else will?
The 'line rental' is just like paying for a contract which provides repairs for, say, a washing machine no matter how many times it goes wrong - it's an insurance policy if you like.

[mornington crescent] 13/12/2016 19:33

tonio 13 Dec '16 - 19:13 - 20339 of 20342 0 0

As to the line rental it is very pleasant not to be faced with a repair bill every time something goes wrong with the network

"every time " ?

lol

very odd thinking there tonio

Why should you pay if there is something wrong with their "network"

[pacemaker1000] 13/12/2016 19:21

Trouble is, for Sharon White to do here job correctly she would have to sack herself and shut Ofcom down!oh...wait....do you think that's why......duh

[pacemaker1000] 13/12/2016 19:19

Analysts at Haitong Research have concluded that Openreach, the networks arm of BT Group PLC (LON:BT.A) “cannot be legally separated” from telecoms giant whatever industry regulator Ofcom’s desires.

In a client note published today, the broker’s research team said it believes that whatever Ofcom “chooses to do now on this issue is irrelevant to BT investors.”

Haitong’s analysts drew this conclusion after studying submissions the trustee of the BT Pension Scheme (BTPS) made to Ofcom on October 4, which were published on November 29.

They said the submission showed that “legally separating Openreach would render Openreach Co insolvent. In addition, it would hurt the ability of the rest of BT to stand by the BTPS (BT’s Covenant).”

READ: BT told to separate Openreach

The analysts pointed out that Ofcom has accepted that the scale of extra BTPS costs is the biggest determinant of whether its proposal to legally separate Openreach is viable or not.

As at June 2015, the BTPS had liabilities of £53bn and a £10bn deficit so the pension scheme’s trustee’s position outranks those of all other stakeholders, the analysts said.

They concluded: “Because of this, the Trustee’s categorical position is that Ofcom’s proposal to legally separate Openreach is unviable and thus also a big threat to Britain’s digital economy.

“So even if BT wanted to assent to Ofcom’s wishes, it cannot.”

Haitong has a ‘buy’ rating on BT shares, with a fair value price of 560p.

BT shares were up 2%, or 7.1p to 353.8p in midday trading today.

[tonio] 13/12/2016 19:13

If Haitong are correct wouldn't it be appropriate for Ofcom/BT to confirm it?

As to the line rental it is very pleasant not to be faced with a repair bill every time something goes wrong with the network. Maintaining the system - the primary purpose of the line 'rental' I understand - has to be done for all users -not just phone users.

[mornington crescent] 13/12/2016 17:40

montyhedge 12 Dec '16 - 20:11 - 20310 of 20337 1 0
Ofcom will now go after line rental.
Why do consumers have to pay for telephone line

Good question Monty
The whole concept is a comlete rip off

Why is the cost not included in the cost of a call
so it is the same as mobile
Can you imagine having to pay the equivalent to a each mobile operator ?

Installation costs are also suspect

[tonio] 13/12/2016 13:25

Well here's a bit of good news no doubt already noticed:

hxxp://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/news/170407/haitong-concludes-openreach-cannot-be-legally-separated-from-bt-group-170407.html

[neptune_tad] 13/12/2016 12:41

Seems that the old dog is still alive, despite the wishes of some. Happy Xmas

[younasm] 13/12/2016 11:29

Pension deficit will improve next with rising global rates / fixed income yields.