Bt Share Discussion Threads

[alphorn] 01/12/2016 16:03

For those pension deficit followers:

"The total deficit of defined benefit (DB) pension funds is £580bn, almost a third of UK GDP". (PwC).

[kulvinder] 01/12/2016 11:36

Christh, could not agree more, it is BT money that did the research and development and all the others do nit want to pay for the service - how does that work?

[montyhedge] 01/12/2016 10:16

Christh800,000 shareholders should email Sharon White and say give BT a break. Ofcom hate BT.

[excell1] 01/12/2016 10:11

One has to remember here that Ofcom will not wish to hurt the BT pension fund.The last thing the government wants is for BT members to be paid their pensions from the protection fund.Ofcom using tactics to try and force a settlement.

[christh] 01/12/2016 10:02

is ofcom a corrupt organisation?

It seems that is one sided always attacking BT.
SKY, Virgin, Vod,Talk-Talk,O2 are getting away all the time.
All these are BT customers, they are using BT's network to supply broadband to their customers,long distance telephony and data,links to other IP's.
In theory BT has no obligation to offer them any part of its network.
They should go and install their own cables, their own equipment but expect to use BT and have it for free.
BT needs to address these issues with those operators and make them pay dearly.
BT operates the network, maintains it, upgrades it and updates it .
The cost has to be included to the charges of these operators.

I am hoping the new chairman of Openreach, an ex-ofcom director, will shift views and move ofcom's attitude.
see here

[montyhedge] 01/12/2016 09:39

Ofcom and Sharon White it seems want BT to be a non profit making company. 800,000 sharesholders, 364,000 BT pensioners don't agree with her. Line rental will now be under attack.

[excell1] 01/12/2016 09:32

Thanks for the link tonoi. Actually BT comes out well in that article being the company to increase it's charges more modestly.Sky charges are unreal. Luckily I am with BT and pay my land line charges annually and receive a decent discount for doing so.

[christh] 01/12/2016 09:29

dirty politics.
This is what it is.Who's hiding behind it?

Who's pulling the strings?

BT will overcome these ripples and rise to 500p.
Fortunate are those with money that they can top up big time.

[montyhedge] 01/12/2016 09:23

That's the next thing Sharon White will go on about line rental, does that stupid woman want BT to be a non profit making organisation.

[tonio] 01/12/2016 09:20

Well it's been around a while excell1 - Sky being the worst allegedly!
From Feb. 2016

[dipso] 01/12/2016 09:19

Over on the FTSE 250, Talk Talk is the biggest faller on the FTSE 250. It has fallen 5.8% to 150.5p following a downgrade by JPMorgan from "neutral" to "underweight".

The review into landline charges announced today by Ofcom hasn't helped either.

Talk Talk shares have fallen by a third this year.

[excell1] 01/12/2016 09:04

Just another threat in the ongoing dispute.All will be resolved soon.

[tonio] 01/12/2016 09:03

Morning oh great Oracle, whither BT today then?

[montyhedge] 01/12/2016 08:52

Ofcom really dislike BT.

[tonio] 01/12/2016 08:35

From BBC Business Live:
'Ofcom is reviewing the retail market for landline telephone services. Although competition in the telecommunications sector remains strong, the watchdog says all major landline providers have increased their line rental charges by between 28% and 41% in real terms in recent years, Ofcom has found, despite a 25% fall in wholesale costs.

Jonathan Oxley, competition group director at Ofcom, says: “Our evidence shows that landline providers have been raising the price of line rental, even as their costs have been coming down. We’re particularly concerned for older and vulnerable customers, who rely on their landline and are less likely to change provider.” '

Oh dear, doesn't the rental reflect the cost of maintaining the system by Openreach and presumably, I dunno, some contribution towards the cost of extending it with all that wonderful fibre stuff?
I must say good old Plusnet still seems to give a decent 1-year upfront deal.
Whatever, as an old and vulnerable customer all I want is 10Mb/s on copper wires
so I can stream in HD to my heart's content. Good old Ofcom - a real role at last - champion of the old and vulnerable!

[excell1] 30/11/2016 17:59

Would be easy for BT to throw a few gremlins into the current broadband system i.e.
via some unforeseen hacker and see how the likes of Ofcom sort that lot out.You would have the likes of TalkTalk etc.begging BT to get it fixed.

[spendalot] 30/11/2016 17:49

don't think miss white et al are gonna get what think they are, poss a game being played with Ofcom, just my thoughts.

[toon1966] 30/11/2016 08:52

The 'new' broker notes this morning are reiterations of previous assessments, no change in price targets, take this as positive. I notice Deutsche Bank are consistent as ever with their 'sell' note.

[mornington crescent] 30/11/2016 08:39

"Making Openreach more independent is something both BT and Ofcom agree on "

what rubbish

BT clearly do not agree but are being forced to drink from the trough

Ofcom with balls !

Long overdue

[excell1] 30/11/2016 08:17

Think it means a share price of £5.40 if Sharron White is convicted.

[tonio] 30/11/2016 08:11

I love those conviction buys - has a buy ever led to a conviction?

[excell1] 30/11/2016 08:09

New broker notes this morning HSBC BUY £4.70 and Goldman Sachs Conviction Buy at £5.40

[montyhedge] 30/11/2016 08:07

I do see BT back over 400p coming months, it could have been worst, uncertainty out the way.