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Just seen your post on the thread monitored by AW which due to circumstances beyond my control I am unable to reply to.
It is something I was unaware off and if correct is very underhanded but I will have to take it up with Aviva now so thanks for the heads up.
I have noticed that whereas in the past when sent notifications by Aviva it was customary to be sent a business reply envelop so you could respond if necessary but that is no longer the case.
Seems a bit mean spirited but every penny counts I suppose.
Will be watching 444 as is my next target but has to go some to match the dividends on offer elsewhere
Lots of nerves apparent today and think will have more of the same over next few days.
Is very easy to be caught out in such a thin market
I still think there is further downside risk to come so be careful.
I have to all intents and purposes finished for the year but have left a few offers as is my wont.
Have a good xmas all |
I have not posted on here for a long time due to past political content but feel I have no choice now, on a topic unrelated to the takeover.
I am an Aviva pensioner from my L&E days. Fortunately I have multiple company pensions and no reliance on my Aviva pension. However today I received the notice of annual increases. Pensions accrued after April 1997 have increases specified in the pension terms but those accrued before that date only receive discretionary increases. This year Aviva have awarded 0% increase on pre-April 1997 pension. This will disproportionately affect the oldest and most vulnerable of Aviva's pensioners and is a quite disgusting act by a company which claims to value its staff. I am putting this information out there to both shame the company and to ensure that it is not kept quiet because others do not want to put their heads above the parapet. |
My guess/hope is that AV will not change the proposed Terms. If the DLG Directors fail to recommend the deal, AV will proceed without their recommendation.
It would then be up to the DLG Board to elicit a better Offer from a 'White Knight'
Personally, I hate the idea of this deal and would be delighted if it disappeared |
I think so, therefore I would guess that if they remain serious buyers of Direct (DLG) then they will just leave the potential offer as before. Shares do go down as well as up and sure that is accepted in good faith by both parties, but I am no expert on tactics etc. Unless anything untoward has been revealed I would guess that Aviva will just stay with the earlier offer. I wish Eurofox was still posting and hope he is well. |
Was it not the value of the shares on that particular day the the terms were agreed? |
It is already lower as any bid involving a level of shares as part of potential offer is exposed to the share price in this case Aviva's. Maybe Aviva will just leave the terms as last indicated so take it or leave it. I just cannot see Aviva increasing the number of shares being offered. |
Offer any lower and dlg will be walking away no ifs or buts |
With the price dropping here, how does that affect the deal with the DLG shareholders? I'll not be happy if they have to issue more paper to compensate for the recent share price drop.
spud |
I just wonder if the due diligence one presumes that is being undertaken will result in a revised lower offer for Direct Line? The indicated offer at the time of about 275p plus DLG shareholders keeping the 5% dividend has obviously fallen back with the current share price of Aviva. All eyes will be on how the CEO of Aviva and the board over the next few days will manage events. I personally wish that the proposed acquisition was calibrated at a much lower price but not sure of the market reaction if they backed off the deal. Amanda Blanc is in a difficult position whatever is decided. I am currently out and have switched more funds into LGEN as things look messy here and full of uncertainties. |
So much for my hope that 10 year yield pressure might abate a little yesterday. The opposite happened and one has to go back all the way to late summer 2008 for 4.563%. |
Looks like a hammering at open tomorrow...whatever happened to Santa rallies? |
Broker upgrades, they fire these out sooooo regularly, yet the price does what the market dictates.Do you buy on broker recs? |
Re: interest rates.
I presume the original idea was for the BOE to contain inflation caused by our internal economy eg. consumer spending, wage rises…
So is there any logic to use interest rates to control inflation when its caused by external factors?
Surely all the rises do, is mess up internal growth and spending? |
 Broker tips: Aviva
Wed 11 Dec 2024
Jefferies has reiterated its 'buy' stance on Aviva after the insurer's £3.6bn takeover pursuit of Direct Line was agreed by the latter's board but said that the deal brings major execution risks. Aviva's share price has fallen around 3% since the 275.0p-per-share offer for Direct Line was accepted on 6 December, after two earlier offers of 250.0p and 261.0p were rejected last month. "We agree with the market reaction to the deal, because although the financial rewards appear compelling, the execution risks should not be overlooked," Jefferies said. While the broker acknowledged that the takeover brings "compelling" financial and strategic prospects - from significant operational cost synergies to reducing competition in the market - it highlighted "material execution risk".
Integration of Direct Line's IT systems will be a sticky issue, Jefferies said, because of the company's recent investment programme. "It's not clear which system Aviva ought to decommission. However, as Aviva's book is performing better, it might be safer to write-off Direct Line's investment and move that book to Aviva, even if the systems are older," the broker said. Meanwhile, Direct Line's strategy since its IPO of "moving down the risk curve" has not been successful in growing earnings sustainably, and Aviva will need to decide whether to "re-risk the book", the broker said. |
The 10 year gilt yield has softened a smidge (with consequent /matching fall in sterling), but nowhere near enough to offset the significant spike in yield yesterday and the grind upwards thru December.Now still hovering at 14 month highs.
Another long day at the office. |
Well at least UK inflation figures decent this morning so hopefully take the upward pressure off interest rates for a little while(he says hopefully). |
It's old news and seems a misleading headlinehttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/12/13/white-male-recruits-final-sign-off-aviva-boss-amanda-blanc/ |
Last thing you want is Musk tweeting about it. |
I agree with Musk on Blanc. Aviva is too woke. They are taking on DEI hires rather than the best talent.
It never works out well for shareholders. |
Post 20422. One of many of the headless chasing an endless rainbow |
rising bond yields on gilts are becoming a problem.
No doubt it is what the new government fear most.
Why they put up taxes in the budget.
Some predicting American 10 years will reach 6% after disruptive Trump takes over.
Not good for the UK.
Who is going to buy UK government 10 years debt for 4.5% when you can buy US debt at 6%?
This party could come crashing down caused by eye watering debt everywhere which will become expensive.
No QE possible this time as inflation is a problem. |
The dividend yield going forward here is not encouraging as no buy-backs due to paper being issued with Direct line potential acquisition. That will suppress the increases we have seen over the last 2 years in my opinion. The acquisition may over time produce some incremental benefit but then with the new paper in place I am less convinced in staying the course with Aviva. I decided to exit at 490p and had moved more funds into LGEN ahead of their very positive (for growth) presentation on November 4th. After jumping from 219p to 241p the fall back in the share price along with the market provides reasonable value today and a yield of 9%. I may be proved wrong and will re-enter Aviva again if we get to 450p levels. The brokers still like Aviva and that is encouraging. I personally just wish that they had not increased their potential offer for DL. |
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