S4 Capital Share Discussion Threads

[tongosti] 25/4/2024 12:15

kind words auson, thank you pal. No, bt non on my radar. Not a big fan of their business model plus chart looks terrible to me, at this juncture.

[mister md] 25/4/2024 10:38

FTSE is finally starting to recover after 20 years of underperformance. Today AngloAmerican potential takeover (+11%), Barclays & Unilever both up 4% on results. FTSE shares are great to buy & hold and just wait for recovery. Decent dividends too.
SFOR is a bit of a basket case ! Only purchased some recently (small % of portfolio) for the possibility of longer term performance. Shareprice so erratic it must be a nightmare to trade it. Today good example - sharp sell-off initially, but could end the day in positive territory - I can't be bothered to watch every trade !
But good to see FTSE shares starting to recover and potentially out-perform versus the AI-bubble fuelled US Tech stocks.

[auson1] 25/4/2024 10:14

tongosti,

Your logic and method as always is sound, even if some on here don't like it !

Talking of FTSE is BT Group on your radar ?

[tongosti] 25/4/2024 09:44

I agree re Meta and WPP, worth keeping an eye on. Hard to describe but feel far more positive about UK equity complex than I have felt in years. FTSE 100 broke out last month and is now doing so from a multi year pattern. It has gone largely unnoticed I think. It kept being strong this month when US indices have wobbled. Odds are we should have a meaningful leg up in ftse over the next few weeks and month. If so, sfor should follow suit. This theme is playing on back of my head (ftse+ sfor) as far as uk equities are concerned and hence watching this closely.

[wallywoo] 25/4/2024 09:41

Never mind tongosti. Is that the 5th time in a row you have been stopped out here?


Perhaps it's time you listened to me?


What was it I was saying at 60p? Ah yes that this was just another bounce just like the one in July 23. That business momentum was down and that Q1 results would be terrible.


So another Quarter results day would most likely be another massive share price fall day. Just like it has for over 2 years now. Looking forward to taking my profits then!! This is a simple game when you don't listen to the pretending guru's trying to misdirect pi's!!!

[auson1] 25/4/2024 09:16

Thanks tongosti,

I guess todays reaction to Meta and WPP could be telling as to the next move here.
Got some more at 49p this morning which I will sell soon for a few percent profit if there is one to be had.

[tongosti] 25/4/2024 09:04

Volume yesterday (tentative b/o day from a wedge pattern) was 3x the average of previous three days. It was a key reason I was getting worried once we reversed from 56. Agreed - markets surprise us the whole time that's why we better prepare for all eventualities. Even though I am out at the moment I don't forget the huge accumulation of shares that has taken place this year. Guess I will have to wait for a better opp to jump back on board again. Come on S4 and good luck to all holders.

[tongosti] 25/4/2024 08:46

Indeed pal - I am out. Tough as it is to take I have learned being disciplined the (very) hard way. Watching like a hawk for the next bullish setup. What i find perplexing is FTSE being very strong globally (since from its 21 March b/o) on a relative basis and as such I was expecting a second wind for s4. One day at a time.

[auson1] 25/4/2024 08:38

tongosti,

Will that be you fully out, trailing stop loss hit ?

[ny boy] 25/4/2024 07:11

Awful, lifestyle pish for Sorrell, can't see them surviving.

[bloomberg2] 25/4/2024 05:47

Meta results last night !! Reason sfor dropped !!More tonight so hopefully SFOR will drop back to a better entry level

[careful] 24/4/2024 17:35

Less than 3 million shares traded today.(according to ADVFN)
Low volume big move.
Less than 0.5% of shares.

Hard to understand the price action in markets sometimes.
Not exactly a dash for the door.

[wallywoo] 24/4/2024 16:54

Yep, as expected. This is not behaving like a share on a new uptrend. It is behaving like a share on a small bounce from a long downtrend. Tongosti, nige and Auson knew this too. They just wanted to flog this dead horse as much as possible first (like they have for over 2 years).


Q1 results expected to be terrible. See you at 40p.

Don't forget that S4 have 7 directors earning huge salaries (adding up to roughly £5m per annum). Too much for such a troubled company imho.

[halfpenny] 24/4/2024 16:52

Further falls as Market Correction 10%...

[halfpenny] 24/4/2024 16:51

I did say 50p to be tested.

NOW DOWN TOWARDS 40p soon...take profits before its too late...

[tongosti] 24/4/2024 16:42

trend is still intact according to 25dma and beyond but the shorter 21 day was compromised today (closed below that for first time in more than 4 weeks). Still, my decision to scale out a few more was not necessarily moving average driven as it was the failure to rally from 56 - a key pivot for me as technically that should have been the ideal pivot to help initiate a climb to fresh highs (as opposed to head back down towards the gap you mention).

I agree with you, 50.75 is the line in the sand.

let's see what tomorrow brings pal - one day at a time.

[auson1] 24/4/2024 15:32

tongosti,

Correct todays action not looking good, but wasn't there a gap to be filled around 52.5 ? As long as we stay above 50.75 does that not mean the up trend is still intact ?

[tongosti] 24/4/2024 15:10

Bad tape chaps following the important 56.5 pivot. Took out a good few again and closely observing price action.

[wallywoo] 24/4/2024 12:30

Lol, how many times do you want to post that. Have traded this lots of times, never made a loss. Currently short from 58. Fully expect to make 10-20 points profit this time. 99% of my posts since 200p have been urging pi's to sell and avoid huge losses.


Q1 results are going to be terrible. This will drop like a stone, just like it has every results session for over 2 years.

Auson on the other hand has been consistently bullish for 3/ 4 years. Over which time the shares have crashed massively. Ask yourself which one is likely to be right this time? Also ask yourself why someone continues to post positively after sooo long being wrong!!!

[auson1] 24/4/2024 10:42

NigeCo,

Well Marshall Wace have moved on to WPP, clearly more meat on the bone to short there.

halfpenny,

where are you seeing this ? Total volume today less than half of the single buy trade Nige just mentioned ?

[halfpenny] 24/4/2024 10:26

Looks like large sells with 50p support being tested ...

[nige co] 24/4/2024 10:04

It looks like shorters have moved on, also buying volume has dried up, although I did spot this reported as a large buy trade after the market had closed yesterday for 498,551 shares. I think that we are probably going to have to wait for Q1 results next month for any movement in the share price.

[auson1] 24/4/2024 09:07

'wallywoo - 04 May 2022 - 10:36:33 - 170 of 353 SFOR 2022 - SFOR
Certainly a large amount of fear in the share price. Despite that have bgt in today at 298 for the first time.


Sometimes you have to way up any potential bad news in the price. This comes out as a good risk reward, imo.


It was only 20 months ago that SFOR easily raised £116m at 315p per share. There's been spectacular growth since then.


Good punt ahead of the results, whenever they maybe!!'

[wallywoo] 23/4/2024 13:11

Lol, just 12 months ago the shares were trading around 145. Auson was regularly posting, saying the share price was moving higher. Tongosti was backing him up.


And here we are today, the shares are down 65% and Auson and tongosti are doing the exact same thing.


Who is the foolish one?