Westcity Share Discussion Threads

[atholl91] 24/8/2009 10:34

Hello - A minority shareholder in an unlisted entity 'run' by this collection?

[atholl91] 29/6/2009 15:41

Seems the Africans cannot get their accounts out within 6 months of the year-end - what are they smoking?

[simonshack] 13/4/2009 10:52

Questioning "Active Thermitic Material Discovered"

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Questioning "Active Thermitic Material Discovered in dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe"

Why has this new paper been published now by Jones, Harrit et al? What important 9/11 evidence are Steve Jones and the Co-authors ignoring or unable to address?

This is a quickly composed article, posted as a response to the re-cycled and morphing thermite theory, which has again been "dressed up" in what appears to be an authentic Scientific Paper. As all 9/11 researchers should know, appearances can be deceptive. So, let's scratch the veneer of apparent credibility and look at the evidence and issues Steve Jones and his cohorts won't address.

Could Jones, Harrit et al have published this paper because too many people are finding out about the Hurricane (Erin) parked outside NYC on 9/11? Are they also realising the connection of the effects seen at the WTC to those of the Hutchison Effect:





Exactly what is the Bentham Open Journal? It costs $800 to get a paper published on there:



Perhaps it is too much to expect or ask reviewers to look into the background of the evidence as a way of validating the paper.



Though the editor in chief is listed, no other details about reviewers on the editorial board are available – apart from their name and country. I.e. their qualifications and areas of specialism are not listed (at least not on this page).

When studied closely, there is no verifiable evidence that thermite played ANY SIGNIFICANT role in the destruction of the WTC. (It MAY have been used in cutting some of small amounts of remaining steel in the clean up operation). If it were truly significant, why didn't Jones and his team submit his research in their legal challenges to NIST (see below).

2005 - Jones says "thermite carried in in loads"
2006/7 - Jones says "probably thermite AND superthermite"
2008 - Jones says "Paint on thermite"
2009 - Jones says "Active thermitic compounds"

So which one is correct? Or is this "morphing as we go" to string people along - and distract them from the verifiable evidence that thermite/superthermite/nanothermite/DOD thermite/superthermate can never explain - such as

The severe lack of debris:



Upside down cars at the WTC



Straight-line hurricane movement




Magnetic field disturbances at the PRECISE moment of "1st impact".




Recently, I compiled a list of questions and comments regarding Steve Jones and his research, and posted them here.



I have reproduced slightly modified versions of some of the points here.

1) Steven E Jones and a group of people submitted an RFC to NIST regarding the NCSTAR reports for WTC 1 & 2.





Why do these documents not mention Molten Metal anywhere in them? Why does it not mention Prof Jones OWN thermite tests - which are said to be "conclusive"?

2) On May 8 2008, Prof Steven E Jones suggests the towers could have been destroyed with the help of Paint on Thermite. Why?




3) Can the authors comment on or explain inverted cars near the WTC on 9/11 and the exploding cars reported by witnesses such Patricia Ondrovich and the exploding Scott Packs (oxygen tanks) reported by some firefighters?



4) Can the authors comment on the proximity of Hurricane Erin to NYC during the events of 9/11 (was he aware of its proximity and existence?



5) Are the authors going to submit a Qui Tam fraud case against NIST's contractors as Professor's Morgan Reynolds and Professor Judy Wood have done (Dr Wood's case is currently under appeal)



Now let's have a look at some other things that Dr Steve Jones has suggested.

Steve Jones suggests 9/11 Truthers should irradiate themselves:




Steve Jones and The Next 9/11 Attack Close
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30:05 -Jones: OK. One other exercise is that we have learned that with evidence we can learn a great deal so if there is an event and - we won't even name a cit lets just say an American city - blamed on Iran, certainly there will be 9/11 truthers nearby and I hope they realize the importance of collecting a sample [right] whether that's dust ... [also radiation] right - having a radiation detector handy if you've got one – whether it's Geiger - if you send me a sample I'd be glad to look at it and I'm sure you would too, Bill. So, if there is such an event the point – the reason I'm emphasizing this is because it's a bit of a warning if there are perpetrators thinking about – such another 9/11 they'd better think twice because 9/11 truthers are out there – we're watching. We will get samples – we know what to do – evidence-based studies – we can do very quickly and we can put an end to lies - on the next 9/11 if it [inaudible] ... which I hope we'll avoid... is what I'm trying to say...

Steve Jones Denies that 70 stories of WTC Steel Turned to Dust - it "Shook and Fell"



Steve Jones and "The WTC Spire" Close
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Steven Jones Suggests it's Safe to Dip Wet Fingers in Molten Metal (what has this got to do with what happened at the WTC)?



Prof Steve Jones - "Trust in Me" Close
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It's ALL about the Cover up of FREE ENERGY. But some people who were previously involved in the Cold Fusion cover up don't want you to realise that.

[simonshack] 13/4/2009 10:42

NOW GO VISIT FOR MORE EVIDENCE

[atholl91] 26/3/2008 17:27

Why not have another rights issue mooks - then stock can halve again.

[atholl91] 14/1/2008 19:06

Since this Lucky Sperm Club member has taken over 'management' all that has been achieved is value destruction........

[johndee] 10/2/2003 01:42

Wrong thread!!!!?????

[popeyedoyle] 12/9/2002 20:33

Maxk

I like you by the minute mate. Hope you enjoy your time. I just pray the day I can leave this place too. I have ARM, QXL, CTM, and considering PTG for a long term punt.

[maxk] 12/9/2002 20:22

I did indeed popeye! many thanks, I sure put my foot in it there!

All is very well here in France, have left blighty behinds for greener pastures...let the likes of our friends above have it!


What are you currently into, if you dont mind me asking? I have my usual hopefulls of PRE, NOP and PET....like the scary ones..:-)

All the best!

max

[popeyedoyle] 12/9/2002 20:15

Longnose

no no no . I should not laugh!!!LOL

[popeyedoyle] 12/9/2002 20:15

maxk

hope you are well? hope you read my message on the other BB?

[longnose] 12/9/2002 20:14

to many popping her dung popperdom