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Polyfuel Inc LSE:PYF London Ordinary Share USU731291055 COM SHS USD0.001 (REG S)
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  +0.00p +0.00% 3.50p 0.00p 0.00p - - - 0 05:00:10
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Electronic & Electrical Equipment - - - - 2.01

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morgs: My take on the plus side is that, the directors are under no illusion that without this round of funding they would be insolvent. They are not Chapter 11, a good thing, and by suspending the shares they can openly negotiate and search for more. I actually think that the break up value could actually exceed the suspended share price. It all depends on the state of the Venture Capital funds and their position as major shareholders as to the motivations of the Directors.
hugepants: I bought some earlier today. PYF should have 7p per share of cash. They also state in interims they have enough cash through 2009. So thats 12 months from now. Market cap is less than £1M but they've raised $37M in private placings since 1999 and another £17M since listing on AIM. The technology looks to me as though it has significant value. Worst case I see the company being bought out or taken private at several times current share price. Dyor of course. I may end up looking like a pillock but this isnt a Voller Energy. I think theres a lot of value here. The financial highlights section on the website gives a good summary -
jonwig: H P - if you're right, that should be some support for the PYF share price, which has traded below NAV for some time. The current MCap of PYF is £0.93m. At 30/06 they had net assets (tangible) of $10.1m (current $6.1m). The trouble is that their expenditure is about $7m pa. Unfortunately, I think the demise of Li-ion batteries in favour of DMFCs has been postponed indefinitely by the economic climate.
robin_of_loxley: Hi, I have in the past few weeks been reading up and researching ITM and trying to get a view on how competitive their technology is.... When looking around, there I found a lot of good things said about polyfuel, but have only just realised that polyfuel was aim listed, I assumed it was a US company, and didnt even realise it was listed what do folk here think about polyfuel, the extent of its relationships and collaborations, and of how close to comemrcialisation they are? are people here in both ITM and PYF? would be interested in views of why they are or why they arent the comments on the website from pyf seem excellent... Robin_of_Loxley - 7 Jul'08 - 08:38 - 4699 of 4699 edit These extracts below re polyfuel look interesting. I have just noticed that polyfuel is also on AIM? ("PolyFuel was spun out of SRI International (formerly the Stanford Research Institute) in 1999, after 14 years of applied membrane research. The company is based in Mountain View, California, and is publicly listed on the AIM market of the London Stock Exchange.") I havent checked out the ticker or share price yet, but are other folk here invested in both? What do other folk here think about polyfuel? How do people think the technologies compare? What PolyFuel has accomplished is to have fundamentally solved the water management problem that has plagued portable fuel cell developers for nearly a decade. All fuel cells create water as a byproduct of the electricity generation process. The trick is what to do with it. For this achievement, PolyFuel engineered an entirely new membrane, a breakthrough "membrane electrode assembly" (MEA) design, and a new system design that not only reduces the amount of water byproduct produced during fuel cell operation, but recycles a significant portion of that water directly back through the membrane to the fuel side, where it is reused to generate more electricity. The new membrane and MEA allows the water to be kept in perfect balance throughout the system. The result is a considerable simplification in the design of the fuel cell system, eliminating components, reducing overall size and weight, and lowering cost. These are significant, as the primary difficulty with fuel cells has been to make them small enough to be able to be integrated into the notebook PC itself. PolyFuel carefully listened to the needs of automotive fuel cell system developers and engineered a breakthrough hydrogen membrane specifically for their requirements. The results have been dramatic. First and foremost, the new membrane is based upon a hydrocarbon - rather than a fluorocarbon - polymer that is substantially less expensive. In addition the new membrane can operate more stably at lower levels of humidification, and at both higher and lower operating temperatures. Furthermore, in PolyFuel's accelerated lifetime testing, the new PolyFuel hydrogen membrane technology has demonstrated a 35% to 50% increase in durability when compared to fluorocarbon membranes. The net result of PolyFuel's hydrogen membrane technology breakthrough is that automakers will be able to design fuel cell engines that will have a lower capital cost, lower operating costs, greater operating flexibility and higher overall efficiency. It's no wonder that the world's leading automotive companies are excited about our hydrogen membrane technology. The state of the art in fuel cells is closely tied to the membrane, and PolyFuel's best in class, hydrocarbon-based membranes enable a new generation of fuel cells that for the first time can deliver on the long-awaited promise of clean, cost-effective, and non-stop portable power. PolyFuel has an unmatched capability to rapidly translate the system-level requirements of fuel cell designers and manufacturers into engineered polymer nano-architectures. Such capability – based on PolyFuel's more than 150 combined years of fuel cell experience, world-class polymer nano-architects, and a fundamental patent position covering more than 25 different inventions – also makes PolyFuel an essential development partner and supplier to any company seeking to advance the state of the art in fuel cells. Fuel cells built with PolyFuel's hydrocarbon membranes, as the Company's own performance-leading reference designs have demonstrated, can be smaller, lighter, longer-running, more efficient, less expensive and more robust than those made with other membrane materials. PolyFuel is working with most of the world's leading portable fuel cell system developers, the majority of whom are household brand name consumer electronics manufacturers. Several of the largest Japanese and Korean consumer electronics companies rank PolyFuel's hydrocarbon membranes as the best portable fuel cell membranes available in the world today, and its DMFC stack and now system technology, which it readily shares with its customers, is unsurpassed. no advice intended
hectorp: Company has 'fundimentally solved' the issue of water production.. ( excellent) and P....olyFuel is now working on the final step of incorporating the fuel cell into a functioning hybrid power module and integrating it with a commercially available notebook PC. Once completed, PolyFuel is planning to make several prototypes available to customers, thereby accelerating their development and commercialisation activities. PolyFuel intends to work with battery and notebook/PC OEMs to seek to introduce the fuel cell system into the high growth, 100+ million unit per year market... ( from last weeks RNS) I dont see why there are not a lot more buyers this is still excellent news at this share price.
don muang: asparks in a word ...'Yes' .... plenty of time left on it for price influencing newsflow garth ... it's what the revenues will be when and if PYF's core technology proves to be commercial and more advanced / cost effective than competitors. If 2009 is commercialisation then by end of 2008 then this should be reflected in share price (as per CRA ... technology still undergoing developement but probable succss of that developement starting now to befactored in to SP).
garth: Don, Its a great technology story, but the reality is that over the INTERIM period they had £300K of revenue and lost £2.2M They made this statement: "Going forward we are firmly focused on supporting our customers along three paths to commercialisation and we are making good progress on all fronts. We have refocused our resources internally to ensure our expertise can best be channeled where it's needed. This has allowed us to reduce overall expenditure levels and significantly lower our projected cash requirements such that we now have sufficient cash to finance the business into the second half of 2009, by which time we believe that our customers test market activities will have led to commercial business for PolyFuel." In other words, they hope that by the time the cash runs out they will have started to receive "commercial business". That's not EDITDA break even or profitability - its just commercial business...... In the current markets, with solid, some profitable tech businesses trading on less than 8x projected earnings I don't understand the attractions of a business that is still 2 years away from "commercial business", will be running a close thing as to whether they get there with the cash they have,and has a share price in decline. Just an opinion though - I hold no position and never have. I keep half an eye on the sector though - and have done for a number of years. G.
kenmitch: My tuppence worth on the warrants fwiw. I would NOT be tempted to buy the warrants yet.Wait, either until there is good news which lifts the shares, and/or the shares show real signs of life for a couple of days which often means that those in the know know something the rest of us don't. The more so if the rising share price is accompanied by significant buying. A one day share price rise can often be meaningless - i.e the result of a tip somewhere and a resulting MM mark up in the price which is usually corrected the following day. At present the warrants remain a complete gamble as the shares are now below the exercise price and remain in a downtrend. It rarely pays trying to catch falling knives. And if the shares fall a lot more we can probably forget about a warrant purchase. BUT well worth keeping a close eye on the warrant price. If the shares stay within easy reach of the exercise price and if the warrants fall further to 5p to buy - or even less, then massive potential upside IF newsflow improves and the shares are heading significantly higher later this year. e.g 80p for the shares and a warrant price of 20p. Not bad upside if available for 5p or less. But no point buying if the warrants are heading for 0p! Remember that in January the warrants were then very overvalued before a rise in the share price while the warrant price stayed the same provided us with a wonderful buying opportunity. The same just could happen again. i.e watch and wait for now.
unionhall: Laugher - I'm no expert but the basic premise is that if the share price doubles from here say from 90p to 180p then the warrants will increase from approx 30p to 150p hence often warrants would already have some premium attached to represent such high gearing and their relative cheap cost to get full exposure to share price increase. PYFW have no time premium - the price is running exactly 60p behind PYF. This may be because of the speed of the action over the last three days trading. I was alerted to them because the last Director buying had the CEO buying about 9k shares and 220k warrants which I found very unusual(amd positive). The short time to warrant expiry was a concern so I didn't buy any until the share price started taking off three days ago. I should point out if the share price drops 30p to 60p the warrants will become pretty worthless. Close to expiry time the conversion of a large number of warrants can act as a drag on the share price. You pays your money and you takes your chance.....
krishall: Well one of the free financial e-mail distributions was plugging nanotechnology as the next big thing (sound familiar !!) last week. Then last Friday, a couple of minutes before the close, some one bought 100,000 of the warrants. Perhaps something in the wind as wouldn't have thought an investment in the warrants of that size wouldn't have been spontaneous. Let's see if the PYF share price starts an upward movement from here. KH.
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