Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Irish Life&P.Gp LSE:IPM London Ordinary Share IE00B59NXW72 ORD EUR0.32
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00 € +0.00% 0.0285 € 0.00 € 0.00 € - - - 0.00 05:00:10
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Life Insurance 0.0 -157.0 -47.4 - 7.76

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16/1/2014
22:30
sage of suffolk: http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/financial-services/permanent-tsb-good-bank-aims-for-2016-profit-1.1654022 Any research available to justify where share price may be in 2017 after return to private ownership? S
14/8/2013
15:24
snap23: I know it may mean nothing but share price gone up over 30% in the last few days now at 0.04 volume increasing too,I only hold 2400 shares had a small punt as it dropped.
23/7/2013
17:55
investorpesant: i see the share price of great wesco life increased 15% from feb when they anounced they was going to buy irish life to the completion a few days ago.an increase of hundreds of millions in the market cap.thats very generous of the irish goverment.and dont these canadians know that its A CRIMINAL OFFENCE TO BUY STOLLEN ASSETS CHEAP.
14/8/2012
09:23
goget: Thanks Cudman - what about if we wanted to sell the shares if/when they go up, can we still do that with the IPM share certificate?
29/4/2012
04:54
snap23: any1 got a link where the share price is thanks
26/4/2012
11:32
declan2: No one really cares about the share price. I closed my account down in protest. PERMANENT TSB's future as a stand-alone institution has been secured after officials from the European Commission, European Central Bank and International Monetary Fund threw their weight behind a plan to preserve the bank's independence. Sources last night confirmed that the troika had endorsed management's plans to carve Permanent TSB into a 'good bank', that will include its healthier loans, and a 'bad bank', that will include some tracker mortgages and UK assets. The bad bank will then be wound down over a number of years and some assets may be sold more swiftly. The good bank will be a mainstream retail lender, focusing on residential mortgages and other consumer loans. Between them, they will have a total balance sheet of about €14bn. The scale of the good bank may be boosted with a contract to service tens of billion of troubled tracker mortgages that are being moved from AIB and Permanent TSB into IBRC (formerly Anglo). Address Sources last night stressed that some of the finer details of Permanent TSB's plan had yet to be worked out. However, an agreement is expected to be announced today as part of the troika's review of the Irish bailout programme. The announcement is likely to be made by Finance Minister Michael Noonan when he addresses the media at midday for his regular press conference after the troika's quarterly review mission. At his press conference in January, Mr Noonan made the surprise announcement that Permanent TSB's strategic future was to be examined by the troika -- something that could result in the bank being either developed independently, merged or shut. The Government had initially favoured putting Permanent TSB into AIB, but this met with a cool response from the latter's management. Some elements of the troika argued in favour of keeping Permanent TSB as a stand-alone institution in the interests of fostering competition in the banking market but stressed that this would only be possible if Permanent TSB could demonstrate its viability. Permanent TSB chief executive Jeremy Masding, who joined the bank in January, was charged with drawing up a plan to make it viable after it shed €23bn of loss-making trackers and was separated from its life-insurance arm, Irish Life. Mr Masding's plan provided for Permanent TSB to keep some of its loss-making trackers so that it would have sufficient scale to cover its cost base. Proactive approach He also wants the bank to take a more proactive approach in dealing with troubled mortgages and to pitch for business servicing the tracker loans that will be transferred to IBRC as part of a broader bank restructuring plan. Permanent TSB made its pitch to the troika last Wednesday and impressed officials with its proposals, the Irish Independent understands. It is understood that management has been informed that its pitch was successful. A spokesman for the bank last night declined to comment. A spokesman for the Department of Finance confirmed that the Government had committed to "agree a way forward for PTSB by the end of April 2012". "The sixth review of the programme will conclude tomorrow and, as per previous reviews, a press conference will be held and the changes agreed to the Memorandum of Understanding will be outlined," the spokesman added.
05/4/2012
21:22
loverat: I've often wondered why the government did not just offer shareholders a few million quid. Its going to cost them as much being tied up in all this litigation. I see the share price seems to have gone down a bit. I might buy some more next week.
03/2/2012
05:22
loverat: Investorpesant Thanks - can they screw up this anymore than they already have? Possible I guess. Anyway, I would like to see the current management resign for starters. They are a drag on the share price IMO. In my view - they have been the most inept, lethargic and most incompetant management in modern history. Once that happens any future bad publicity about their performance will have minimal affect on the company.
25/4/2011
18:10
m w: o SCOTCHSTONE CAPITAL Private & Confidential stock market dynamics turn the situation into a deteriorating self-fulfilling prophecy: the higher the fear in the stock market of the improper ownership dilution of the current shareholders by the Government, the lower the share price; and, the lower the share price, the higher the possible ownership dilution of the current shareholders, which the Government may want to improperly impose. This absurd scenario may become a reality very soon, unless it is firmly opposed. Importantly, the past government recapitalisations of Irish banks are not adequate comparable precedents, as those recapitalisations were not driven by artificially high, unrealistic capital requirements, which would be then misused via an interlinked and carefully crafted string of inequitable government measures aimed at negating basic ownership rights of current shareholders - it is the possible combination of all those inequitable measures in the case of IL&P, which may turn the situation into such a crude deprivation of basic ownership rights. We have asked the IL&P Board of Directors to protect the shareholder wealth The Board of Directors of IL&P has a fiduciary duty to protect the shareholder value and should resist any outside pressures to give away the current shareholder wealth for nothing. We have asked the Board to work closely with the shareholders and with the Irish Authorities so the significant additional over €1.7bn capital contributions by the current shareholders are properly recognised and honoured when the likely Government's stake in IL&P is established after the full recapitalisation. If the Irish Authorities did not in advance rule out unduly disenfranchising the current IL&P shareholders by excessively improperly diluting us (as delineated above), then it would be the duty of the Board to protect the current shareholder value by NOT giving away wealth via the sale / IPO of the Life Assurance and Investment Management businesses. In such a case, it would be in the interest of current shareholders (who would be then confronted any way with an inequitable ownership dilution) to maximise the value of assets left in the IL&P businesses following the recapitalisation. Otherwise, not only would the current shareholders be left with a greatly diminished business, but also our ownership of this diminished business would be all but wiped out. What can be done - together, the shareholders can influence the situation for the better Overall, our objective is to persuade the powers that be that the basic ownership rights of the IL&P shareholders should not be crudely violated. To achieve this objective, we believe that a number of collective shareholder actions may be undertaken, including among others: engaging further the IL&P Management and the Board of Directors; engaging the Irish Authorities; and, if needed, also engaging the media. We would like to avoid a legal action, but it remains the last resort for shareholders, if anyone wanted to deprive us of our basic ownership rights by improperly excessively diluting our shareholding in the already forcefully diminished IL&P business. In any case, we believe that it is critical that the current shareholders close ranks. We understand that many other stockholders share our views. We have already spoken with a number of them. But we need more support. The more united the current shareholders are, the more effective we can jointly be in influencing the current situation. Thus, please contact us in order to, at the very least, simply express your views / support - such feedback in and of itself would be important and valuable to us and could establish a launching pad for coordinated next steps. Please also consider attending the IL&P Annual General Meeting (AGM) on 18 May. The AGM can give shareholders an opportunity to express views more broadly and communicate with each other in person. Thank you for your consideration and I look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Piotr Skoczylas Managing Director and Fund Manager Scotchstone Capital Fund Ltd Email: piotr.skoczylas@scotchstone-capital.com Phone: + 356 2788 8840 Mobile: + 356 9953 8000 www.scotchstone-capital.com
08/4/2009
13:46
lbo: The only one that does not need to dump toxic property assets into the NTMA and need capital so far! The rise in IPM share price while ALBK and BKIR falls today sums it up. If you want to gamble then go to Vegas or invest in Irish banks!
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