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|Today's drop wasn't unique to BT and all happened at the same time when May opened her gob|
|Interesting Chris. So BT own the DSLAMs? No advantage for Sky buying into openreach then. So transferring maintenance back to BT would consolidate this. Surely BT own the ducts and rent just the land? All I know is when a pcp had to be moved recently OR were not allowed to use the DSLAM duct as BT owned it. Which implies BT own all ducts between pcp and dslam.|
|The Ducts on the pavements are owned by the local authority which BT pays rent.
The same thing with the DSLAMS,Telegraph poles and gpo manholes.BT is paying rent to the local authority and BT is responsible for their maintenance.
The DSLAMS along with the other equipment is owned by BT not Openreach!!!
BT has paid millions of pounds for the DSLAMS and are BT assets.
Openreach is maintaining, installing, repairing all the equipment owned by BT.
The only equipment that Openreach owns is the frame what they call the MDF.
Strange for the price to behave like that today but maybe Monty is right.
Probably the results leaked out but no one running for the door, instead the price has stabilized around 378p.
Not very happy as this has come down from 480p which is a significant drop but that was after the ceo's advise about Brexit.
Perhaps there will be some news about EE to encourage the investors to come back.|
|Surely the FTTC dslams are an OR owned product. I think this because when you look at the massive expense they went to and located new ones just outside exchanges. Some even in the yards when they could have provided the service at a fraction of the cost siting the kit in the exchange although that would then be on the wrong side of the BT and OR border line.Maybe someone in the know can explain the exact reason for them providing cabinets like this at so much cost.
Just my thoughts.|
|Exchange engineers work for BT and own/look after old exchange adsl equipment. So it's no stretch to say BT will also own and maintain DSLAMs. Same kit just different location, the mdf is the separation point for adsl and OR so why not the pcp for DSLAMs? There's a whole new infrastructure been put in place just to look after DSLAMs and seperate it from pw's,so a sideways move is plausible. Although the rationale behind this is to meet new service level agreements. Who paid for the DSLAMs? OR or BT? Ducts between pcp's and DSLAMs are not owned by OR!
This is a rumour. Maybe a backup plan? Maybe a deterrent? Maybe bull? But worthy of discussion especially about who actually owns the kit.|
|monty no;1....somebody is keeping that right header chart in check....take a look...|
|I'm sure something as leaked out, figures or Ofcom, seems strange trading pattern today.|
|You're probably right Minerve,
I'd just be really interested to know where Pacemaker read it.|
|BT will not invite Ofcom's anger whatever they do. So I cannot see anything like the DSLAM issue happening. Ofcom would just come back with a bigger stick.|
"BT aboout to play a blinder regarding DSLAMs..."
Where did you read this?
On the 1st September this year, a separate group (albeit within O/R) was set up specifically to focus on DSLAMs. The workforce consists of engineers who used to maitain DSLAMs as part of the wider 'private circuit' portfolio (ethernet, wide band, kilo-stream, CCTV etc), but though it was suspected that the DSLAM maintainers may be taken away from O/R, and placed within the parent company, the managemet denied this was their intention.|
|If Ofcom just made the decision and gave a clear path for everyone to work towards over the next 2-5 years that would really really help. If they just remain a 'cloud' it is destroying progress in itself and much more worse than just one having a monopoly. Maybe they should regulate themselves on how much interference and indecision they are allowed to inject into an sector? I am all for everyone having broadband connection, and it is vital in rural areas for farmers, but I have no sympathy for business owners who want to run internet focused businesses from the country so they can live an ideal country life - they want their cake and they want to eat it. Either you want the country life or you want the business - you cannot have both and someone should tell them that. Farmers are the only exception. It is the same as those who buy on floodplains and then want bailing out - you know what you were buying, you knew the risks - tough.|
|As something leaked ?|
|Also agree that with the current level of corporate takeovers and BT near a 3 year low, that it is likely that we will have a bid or two.Ofcom can stick that up their kilt.Sick to death of Ofcom holding this company back.Who is favourite for 1st bid,the Germans or the Chinese?|
|Now that would be a sting in the tail for SKY pacemaker.Thanks for posting.|
|I know either way on the decision will add 20p or minus 20p on the decision to shareprice.Pay yer money take your chance.|
|Minerve sorry yes OFCOM not OFTEL, im a bit "old school"
Thats very interesting Pacemaker1000, Is this info common knowledge. Indeed it would make a big difference to OR. Will the engineers who maintain the exchange equipment also transfer ?|
|FTSE 100 coming off.|
|BT about to play a blinder by transferring all DSLAMs to parent company and off openreach!
This would put a split out of the question IMHO. All openreach would be left with is ducts and copper, absolutely no use to greedy Sky who would have to continue to rent equipment from BT instead of being able to buy themselves into OR.
Minerve you're spot on with Ofcom remarks!|
|I saw a chart last week showing the ratio of pension against revenue of FTSE companies. BT was the LOWEST at only 17% compared to highest at over 60%.
Article said no need for concern given BT turnover.|
|What are they waiting for? You have the information - make the decision!|
|Whenever they want and in their own time! The fact that they are holding investment, shareholders, companies, customers, UK broadband in time suspension - which is very damaging - completely escapes their narrow-minded logic.|
|No, perhaps they are waiting to see the figures on Thursday.|
|Anyone know when we will get a final decision from OFTEL or are they intent on undermining the BT share price permanently?|
|CNBC lots of talk of mergers and bids in the telecom sector.|