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|This is a great growth story, like many Chinese/Hong Kong companies. A lot of start-ups have virtually no tangible assets!
For example look what 'WhatsApp' was worth to Facebook!
Facebook paid $22billion, yes $22,000,000,000 for a company with a relatively tiny revenue and non-existent asset base!
They also bought Oculus for $2bn - a company that makes headsets, but has yet to make any products!
Start-ups with exponential growth potential don't need tangible assets or revenues to be hugely valuable as these two examples show. There are hundreds of other similar examples of prices paid for start-ups by rich companies.
Just look at today's AIM newby and biggest riser: MERCIA TECHNOLOGY.
£115m ($180m) market cap with a handful of operating companies which will show less growth than Alpha's.
Short Sellers have come unstuck many times here. They just get blown out of the water by Chinese investors investing in a Sterling Currency stock. The HongKong/Chinese insiders obviously know a lot more about these investments than we here do and are very keen to buy in.
Happy to see shorts - they just creates huge jumps when they inevitably get squeezed. A lot have been badly burnt in the many recent multi-hundred percent rises.
I expect this to, at least, emulate MERCIA (MERC) and should a big player come in for one of their holdings it could turn into a $Billion company overnight.
Very happy to hold. Lots of good news in the pipeline. Next jump will likely test the 2013 high of 9p.
IMPO DYOR NAI
|Some Chinese shares quoting Alpha as an example with no assets or revenue but a £30m market cap have no merits as an investment.|
|Pardon? Biggest ramp on AIM! LOL. Nobody posts except me and I've only posted 3 times since July.
There are hundreds of mega-ramped stocks, this isn't one of them.
This is doing surprisingly well for a company like you describe.
Its shares are obviously bought almost entirely by Chinese/HongKong investors much closer to the action.
This company has several controlling interests in companies with huge growth potential (PEG). They just announced growing numbers at one. The CFD/Spreadbetting broker they own is the big one - it has truly massive growth potential. Alpha's NAV tripled in the six months to June. Don't they call that exponential?
So at least 4 oriental investments growing fast. Low running costs and over £1m cash in hand, so money not an issue. Great prospects for the companies they hold plus more to come from future investments.
I doubt many UK investors will appreciate this, but there are clearly Asian investors who do. Some have tried to short this and come unstuck, and those who try risk being badly squeezed by loyal Chinese investors.
|This is the biggest ramp on AIM avoid it like the plague No assets no money and no prospects!|
|New 20 month high today signals possible breakout in the offing.
One of their holdings is a Chinese/Hong Kong 'SpreadBetting'/CFD brokerage. What is the growth potential of such a business in the world's most populous country, where everyone is gambling mad!?
Just like AliBaba dwarfs Western giants like Amazon and eBay, so will Oriental SpreadBetting/CFD firms. Some of these will surely dwarf the current big players like CMC and IG Index, which has a m/cap close to £2bn.
Accordingly, the Chinese SpreadBetting/CFD brokerage holding alone has the potential to make Alpha Returns into a £billion company.
That potential is the reason the m/cap it where it is and why it is being bought into. Presumably shares are held and being bought almost entirely by Chinese investors. Chinese insiders and/or their friends know what's really going on - and they're buying.
|Something happening here today.
Real buying, with a short-squeeze added in for good measure!
Could double on good investment news from the far east.
IMPO DYOR NAI
|Posted there today, actually.
FYI I have bought into Alpha, Alba, PeerTV and many other once (some still) nano-cap shells.
One or two go down the toilet. I only need an occasional 3+ bagger to make a good return. I usually sell enough in a recovery/spike to get a free carry...
so whilst I appreciate you taking such an interest in little ole me, please don't worry I am UP substantially going 100% long in AIM minnows over the last couple of years.
|gone very quiet on PTV hey jojo-jo|
|There are always buyers out there ready to mop up any stock that becomes available.
I can only guess some know the true value of what is being invested in by this management.
So onwards and upwards to 15p it is then!
|I can only guess that Chinese companies are much happier accessing the LSE via a Chinese managed company.
It appears to give Alpha a substantial premium to visible value.
This just goes up and up for no obvious reason!
Not complaining though.
|I don't know where the the valuation comes from, but somebody (Add-Plus) recently added at around 2.5p and now hold 4% of the company. So somebody thinks it's worth it.
This is a strange one I have to say, but will continue to hold.
|£20 million MC. Total con|
|Management will do well if this does hit 15p|
|This has quietly 'done the business'.
It doesn't seem to act as one would expect, and must have been a nightmare for the shorts! I imagine a few must have been burnt.
Passing on the 0.15p open offer issue in August was probably my worst decision of 2013. Those would now be 17xbaggers! In fact they 18xbagged within 10 weeks - in October. I can see this ending up being 15p+ which would make it a 100xbagger for those who took up the offer... I could cry!
I don't know how many more investments/acquisitions are coming (after teaming up with 'Ting Tong' lol) but they're not hanging about.
All this and still relatively under the radar.
|Interesting I must say!|
|Is this the same My Securities Limited company Alpha are working with I know its old news hxxp://www.sfc.hk/edistributionWeb/gateway/EN/news-and-announcements/news/doc?refNo=11PR1|
|The long awaited main aquisition/reverse looks like it has finally arrived.
It'll be interesting to see what it is. These guys are pretty canny, so this could be quite lucrative for the patient ones.
|Starting to recover someone made a slight buying error this morning and lost a couple of hundred.|
|An interesting way of progressing to a major acquisition other than by a Reverse?|
|Up 19.6% not bad.|
|open offer finished
up 9% today|
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