Zenova Share Discussion Threads

[bobdown2] 14/7/2024 09:10

Koti4. Its difficult to take in what is going on. The distributer list is flawed. Some companies are doing everything. Some look next to dormant. A group of 4 will certaily devalue what is left. The main distributers could be abroad. A.z international / ecozenova and mazesystems. Australia.. may need a new distributer.
. ...anyway.. the increase in the fx unit price. At a time when there are trials ongoing in sheffield university and a foot in the door at the nhs suggest both are goung well. Amazon is for people who like cheap. Not really worth the effort. Dulux centres may be the same.
The money now is in the big players / contracts. Drips and sparks for the costruction. Ecozenova will be the distributer for latin america. Stuff behind the scenes. Mazesystems.india have connections into the fire services
Romania..just look good. Marineavation..the wild card. Yachts look an excellant entry point.
My take now. Certification..kite mark. Pfas,s covered..lithium batteries covered.
The fire extinguishers validated by the NHS and the sheffield university. And the rise in prices is because the fx500 is the best available it is fully certified whilst others tell porkies. Zenova know how their fx500 aerosols are being recieved in the nhs. They also know the state of play with sheffield. The mass market is not worth it with its low margins and porky pies. More nhs hospitals and more universities are ideal. They have repeat business. Thetv and film set busines looks good..distributer for that.
The new group.!!! With lots of contacts. This is how sheffield uni appeared. It should come to fruition. And be ysed as an example. Hotels have been mentioned. At some stage..maybe railway carraiges. The list grows. And hopefully there will be increasing news. You will become a rich guru. Me..the maintainance charges on my apartment have not allowed me to maximise what is taking place.

[koti4] 14/7/2024 08:22

Will the price point of their products drop off as the benefits of scaling up become evident, they might be the best product but unless they narrow the price gap they will probably struggle in the private sector, public sector no problems as their managers just look for the best and to hell with the cost as its not their money.

Hopefully news from Wednesday onwards

[koti4] 14/7/2024 08:17

Stop it Bob, I might have to add to my holdings this week, not tomorrow as arranging a large purchase elsewhere, I hope news doesn't come in the morning as will be looking at another 1m if price stays the same

Have a great Sunday

[bobdown2] 14/7/2024 07:49

The new group of four. Those that have already been resppnsible for the large distributer distributer sign ups and the drips and sparka 2.4m pound contract. Or, are connected with the fire services. Fire services group. The sister company bells and two tones and zensafe responsible for amazon and more. I cannot imagine the fourth one. The closing of the fire service group web site this weekend maybe because the group is about to be created..the increase in the filtered ones posts show their concern. The fx500,s increase in price may go hand in hand with the group comming together. Obviously they know demand and think the new price is justifiable. I have a few reservations. But i had them on the unexpected fund raise. But, if zed have judged the market demand for what is probably the best extinguisher out there. Then funding will disapear over night. The sheffield university trials came about by fire services groups relationship with the university. India is via partner. Ecozenova was a man known to zenova. Maybe via a partner. This weekends activity suggests the new grouo could be being put together. A 29.95 price for posibly the best small extinguisher in the world suggests other news may come with it. Filters apply. Their concerns are justified. The share price is not. The reratw has to start somewhere. Joti4..has timed his buy in to perfection.

[purchaseatthetop] 14/7/2024 06:41

A major issue with ZED is that their extinguishers are over double the price of standard A-C 9Kg fire extinguishers…

Zensafe. £110


Other supplier £42


Looking at the USPs as listed

EN3-7 certified and BS EN3 Kitemarked
Improves safety - one extinguisher can be used on all fires
Safe for use on lithium battery fires
PFAS compliant - low environmental impact
More effective than traditional extinguishers
Reduces risk of reignition
Less residue and run off, requiring less after-fire clean up
Reduces the number of fire extinguishers required.

I don’t really see anything vital there. In any public building an extinguisher must be within 30m of any point so there is no reduction in numbers.
The type of extinguisher depends on what fuel is around. Type A-C are perfect for 99% of fires.
The cleanest kind of extinguisher is the CO2 one. Zero run off.

If I were the decision maker for a Uni or whatever I would not be willing to over double extinguisher costs to increase residues and run offs.

[bobdown2] 13/7/2024 22:24

Fire services groups website is being changed. Amazon and zensafe fx 500 prices have been increaed. And posibly from zeniva itself. It is now the greenestand pisibly the best extinguisher on the market. Two of three sites are saying that the fx range is the only fire extinguishers you need.
Things could be changing. Prices look to have changed. Next week could be interesting

[pugugly] 13/7/2024 22:07

What odds that many of those hits were ADVFN or LSE users checking them out?
That is if PATT was hitting the right site.
Unable however to check the size/value/turnover of Maze.

[bobdown2] 13/7/2024 21:34

Amazon and zensafe have added 5 pounds to the price of the fx500. . Its zensafe that supply amazon.
Are they confidant or silly.

[bobdown2] 13/7/2024 21:02

This and loads more can be read at maritimeaviation. This us looking like an awesome distributer.
DistreoSRL the romanian distributer has grown from just the fx500 product to paints are a couple of unrelated products.
I get the feeling that romania, the massive latin, central and south american, and india markets are all gaining traction.
News is popping up in increasing amounts. Its a pleasure to research it.
Filters are applied.

[bobdown2] 13/7/2024 20:51

As mentioned.. zenovas fx 500 were able to put out the initial lithium battery fires.zenova expexts to recieve the official test report by the university of newcastle in the near future.
Once again it has been independantly tested. And could lead to a reach statement about the progress if the university trials. The recent chemical results and the new lithium battery fire demo..will help the decision making.

[kemche] 13/7/2024 20:31

MazeSystems are a multinational household name as you know only too well.

[bobdown2] 13/7/2024 16:35

CBINSIGHTS.. a recent follower of zenova.

[bobdown2] 13/7/2024 15:19

09.10.2023.. zenova complete e.u testing to begin marketing.
10.10.2023. Zenovatienda created.. who by? That would have been in last years results period. The origanal spanish distributer perhaps. This week.. albania is a second distributee. second distributers could be even bigger than the original distributer

[bobdown2] 13/7/2024 14:26

Managed growth.?, to do this they have to be in constant contact with the big 2.
Ecozena.international and mazesystems.india. india has mentioned 1m units. Equivilance. Yet to show. However. Newsflow has increased. Not all announced by zenova.

[bobdown2] 13/7/2024 14:20

?????? Created 10.10.2023.
Shopify. Merchanr genius.
ZENOVATIENDA.
Merchant genius is nor affiliated with zenova. Maybe this is thw fiesr visible sign of ecozeno.international. ?? It looks to be in spanish.
The associates programne means that there are other english distributers. But ive only seen maritimeaviation and a.n.other one.

[bobdown2] 13/7/2024 13:16

Contrast. Two new distributers. Albania and maritime aviation. A country with limited financea and the super yacht marine and helicopter( aviation ) market.
Maritime to me look the better option. Much smaller initial sales but a great showcase in a very expensive market. The quality of the maritime aviation website is incredible. How much is this new distributer worth. NOTHING. it has not been mentioned. But its website is priceless.!!!!!.
Filters apply

[pugugly] 13/7/2024 13:01

From their website. Registered in England, No: 08631511; UK VAT Registration No: 255 7554 77

Check them out -


Look like another micro company -

[bobdown2] 13/7/2024 10:52

Easy peasy. Maritime aviation are excellant. My take is all over the front of their website. The video of the heptane fire being put out is amazing. Read their front page and read the gaurdian article.

[bobdown2] 13/7/2024 10:39

A great new lithium-ion battery fire demo.
Released with no fanfare. The very recent chemical? Rns. Is very important. Pfa,s are increasingly worrying. Zenova have removed two areas of concern within a weel.
The battery demo..ideal foe the nhs and the sheffield uni contracts.? The timing of the video and sheffield uni is no coincidence?. The lithium fire was small but intense and dealt with quickly. Ideal for dormitories.
Sales will follow the certifications and fire extinguishing videos. Lists of the posible sectors available are growing quickly. I believe that you cannot treat abparadigm like a normal share.
Read todays gaurdian on the new chemical worries. Zenova have it covered. They are virtually the cleanest and most efficient extinguisher out there.

[bobdown2] 12/7/2024 21:34

Never run a business. So i only use my stock exchange experience. The 2.4 million contract is good for 24 months of 100k a month on average. The b2b business model takes out some of the usual costs.
Certification has only just arrived and there are a few loose ends.
Some are looking at the sales of individual units. The nature of the extinguishers is pointing to something else. The whole of sheffield university could be up for grabs. The nhs could expand quicker than expected. The new lithium-ion battery fire demo released today showed where the focus will be. Zenova have sneaked a lead in a market that takes ages to get certificaion. And to get the best most tested extinguishers it has to be zenova.
The new unmanounced distributer maritimeaviation has 28 sectors the could need zenova products. I will name 3. Railways, hotels and cruise liners. There is hardly any cleaning up with the fx fluid. And todays lithium demo is extremely good on a vicious little fire.
To show that this is posible we need to get sheffield on board.
Only then will the size of zenovas new markets become apparent and normal startup problems are allot less than normal

[koti4] 12/7/2024 17:28

These start ups are always in a race against time to build revenue, scale up and reduce unit costs but one thing on watching the many videos is that their products seem to be top of their class.

By the way some of my purchases are in the money at what he sold for so don't assume he is selling at a loss.

Bob if you are right, next week could be quite interesting

Have a good weekend