Vphase Share Discussion Threads

[empirestate] 11/10/2010 08:03

one deal before christmas should make it a nice christmas for holders.

[janekane] 10/10/2010 16:26

niggle take out the bits u consider private then

[bronek1959b] 08/10/2010 17:42

well which ever view you choose ,its going up.bit of buying today and to be fair this is off the radar so its not being ramped .my instincts tell me something is coming.just my humble opinion.

[niggle] 08/10/2010 17:37

Happy to discuss it with anyone but its not appropriate to post up private emails.

[janekane] 08/10/2010 16:35

post it then

[niggle] 08/10/2010 12:17

I received a really excellent reply to my email from Vphase this morning which leaves me in no doubt about the long term viability of this company. Great stuff - well done!

[melton john] 08/10/2010 08:55

With respect Bronek you are distorting what I said. "for you to want the share price at o.5p i am assuming you dont want the company to move forward" is not what I said at all. I don't want people to lose money, I do't want Vphase to fail. In an ideal investment world, companies borrow our capital, start to grow profits and repay our investment many times over. In the real world, you have to be a bit more discerning, cheats and rogues sell overpriced get rich schemes to the gullible. That is just a general observation and not aimed at Vphase. What i'm saying specifically about Vphase is that I don't see any future in buying in at this level, if I'm wrong I'll go and look elsewhere. We have a free market in these shares, you will sell when the price goes up to some point, I will buy when the price goes down, what's wrong with that?

[niggle] 08/10/2010 08:43

Shame that all this promotes so much bickering but its all about faith. It may well be that the company is worth more now than it will be in 5 years time when the real profit stream is realised and they trade on a P/E; That's the fun of investing though isn't it?

If real growth is realised at 5% a year and they make 1m profit/yr then the truer value may be just 5-10 mil. Look what happened to ITM 50p to 250 then back down to 15p and still no profit.

I think you've just got to be prepared for a choppy time if you dabble in penny shares like this, they could end up turning in to a pile of poo and in a 1000/1 scenario another ASOS lol!

[dave444] 08/10/2010 08:33

The whole point is that VPHA is an £8m market cap for every 1p it share price is at.
They have overheads of £120k/month or £720k/6 months and £1.44m/year - they had £790k cash at end of June plus £2m from fund raising.
On sales they make a margin of 31%.
To breakeven their sales have to be more than 3 times their overheads £1.44x3=£4.32m.
September sales they said were running at 3* previous 6 months average which i take to be £60k providing around £20k gross margin.
So although their is a large potential for vastly increased sales due to being first to market and the clearly need for fuel efficiency they have a long way to go in the short term to even breakeven.

[melton john] 08/10/2010 08:27

Have you any idea what you are talking about?

[wharfboy] 08/10/2010 07:55

Melton - are you suggesting that the Europeans use 240V appliances when their regulated voltage is 220v? So you are saying the voltage is different in Europe but the appliances used are the same as in the UK! Somebody better warn them!

[bronek1959b] 08/10/2010 07:22

of course i want the share price to increase and will assess my options if that increase occurs.my hopes are for the company to prosper along with share price for you to want the share price at o.5p i am assuming you dont want the company to move forward.i have read the rns ,s and in my opinion the company is ideally positioned to grow.training of electricians cert approval and contracts with utilities and housing associations are all in the pipeline.wanting someones harvest to fail so that yours can become of more value in my book is wrong.is it not better to wish all well with their harvest.

[melton john] 07/10/2010 22:35

Whatever my "agenda" is, it will make no difference to the success or otherwise of Vphase. If it doesn't reach a more reasonable value, either by the price slipping down or the profits going up, I will find value elsewhere.

I have been pointing out the ridiculous valuation since the shares were 8p, so I appear to be not on my own.

And what of your agenda, some posters on bulletin boards are, I'm told, professional promoters/rampers, if you aren't then why are you so anxious to talk up the price, are you wanting to sell up? If the story is so good, you should be buying all you can and keeping the price low.

[bronek1959b] 07/10/2010 22:00

melton.why do you assume i paid over the odds.have u got a crystal ball and its clear your agenda is o.5p a share.the utilities will confirm to me the technology if they take it up.cert approval seems likely and contracts ,according to the latest statement are at an advanced stage.you seem to time your posts well and i cant imagine that your kind nature is the reason that you are trying to save us from losing our money.your agenda is not my concern but it is for allto see and i have my opinion .others can decide for themselves.

[melton john] 07/10/2010 21:45

Omzy, a travel website which gives the typical european voltage as 220v.



I haven't travelled around Europe to verify it for you, as much as I'd like to ;-)

Anyone doing due diligence should verify to their own satisfaction the situation in the rest of the world.

Bronek, my constant negativity to which you refer, is not primarily with the technology but with the price of the company/share price. It is not my fault that you paid over the odds and are now looking for a "bigger fool" to sell your stake to. The recent manipulation of the share price does nothing to justify buying at present and I won't be buying until 0.5p.

Perhaps the secret is to think like a mug punter and not like an investor.

Wharfboy, you are talking rubbish. Lower the output voltage anymore and you get below the designed voltage spec for whatever you are using. Vphase chose 220v for this reason, to stay within manufacturer's spec.

[bronek1959b] 07/10/2010 19:05

keep listening to ohmzy he seems like a smart cookie.

[bronek1959b] 07/10/2010 19:03

well well well .back up.looks like the grimreapers constant negativity has been to no avail.perhaps the market makers are in the know.we also have the grim reapers sister ,janekane.when the ghouls appear it tends to bode well.perhaps the secret is to think like a market maker and not like an investor.

[niggle] 07/10/2010 17:49

trouble is the chart suggests its going to fly higher so I am more than a little perplexed as to why the rise is being supported ?

[niggle] 07/10/2010 17:48

well there's stock to shift,some price manipulation going on here, the institutions must be happy their investment has gone up 25% overnight.

[janekane] 07/10/2010 15:50

the mm are suckering in the buyers this is going to drop like a pile of poo any day now

[janekane] 07/10/2010 15:20

Spain, like the rest of Europe (including the UK) has a nominal mains electricity supply of 230 volts AC at 50Hz, This means, in general, that appliances bought in the UK will work in Spain and vice versa. The only difference you may notice is that items such as kettles and toasters may take longer to heat, as in the UK the actual voltage tends to be over 230V, whereas in Spain it is usually well under, and can be as low as 206V

[niggle] 07/10/2010 13:37

Wharfboy - that makes sense. I suppose it depends on the country so its irrelevent what the voltage used is.

[omzy] 07/10/2010 08:49

Melton John - 344

"Worth mentioning regarding foreign sales that the standard voltage in Europe is 220v, no point in selling in Europe."


RNS - 29/7/10
"Once the patent is translated in all 30 countries designated in the European application"

Hi there MJ, no disrespect to you, but I have learned to check all information posted on these boards, therefore could you please supply your source to confirm 220v as being standard in the above 30 countries.

Regards omzy

[wharfboy] 07/10/2010 08:23

They can sell in europe - its just a case of changing the set output voltage down a few volts

[bronek1959b] 07/10/2010 08:08

niggle.phone the company and ask them.or u could listen to melton.