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Share Name | Share Symbol | Market | Type | Share ISIN | Share Description |
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Victorian Plumbing Group Plc | LSE:VIC | London | Ordinary Share | GB00BNVVHD43 | ORD GBP0.001 |
Price Change | % Change | Share Price | Bid Price | Offer Price | High Price | Low Price | Open Price | Shares Traded | Last Trade | |
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-0.50 | -0.47% | 105.00 | 104.50 | 106.00 | 105.50 | 104.50 | 105.50 | 392,658 | 16:35:28 |
Industry Sector | Turnover | Profit | EPS - Basic | PE Ratio | Market Cap |
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Catalog, Mail-order Houses | 285.1M | 11.8M | 0.0362 | 28.87 | 344.28M |
Date | Subject | Author | Discuss |
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24/1/2025 15:25 | Alright Burns, I see you... You have clocked the buyers in size here too, so those big mop ups the other day (when ADVFN was broken and data couldn't be trusted) were real. Someone has come in for big blocks at 102.5p and now they are mopping up at 105p. The book is thin on the offer right now with only two orders showing 4760 in total at 106p. Can't get a quote to buy even 5k right now. The way the orders are put on the book here makes it harder to read, but right now...it looks thin. The Naked One has spotted these buyers and is trying to ride that higher. Can't have him being a smug git if it pops from here so I have had a little go here as well. This one is on you Burns. It better go higher! Ha Poor humour aside, this is attempt number 2 and the final one....only because of Burns. If it goes stale, it is an exit. All imo DYOR | sphere25 | |
24/1/2025 12:23 | Burns gave this a plug yesterday. Burns as in the Naked Trader: "I got some Victorian Plumbing which doesn’t sound that exciting but actually… It’s a rather decent online supply business and it’s been using its cash on acquisitions, tidying up loose ends and a way bigger warehouse. Its plan is to continue to expand and it looks like a nice isa tuckaway. I bought on some weakness, the initial plan is a return to around the 120p level it got to recently" Long gone have those days where you would have tips on Wednesday and Friday. I think those were the two days a week (can't recall if the update days were different before) but long have those days gone where prices would move sharp on the back of a Burns tip. Used to be so easy to piggyback on those. Different time now. Very little buying comes through and little opportunity to piggyback. I think it partly goes to show how tough markets are to navigate from year to year or there would be hundreds of buys streaming in here and other tips. No movement here. Market is happy to exchange around that 105p mark. All imo DYOR | sphere25 | |
22/1/2025 15:25 | The market must be sure about the economic situation to be coming in and buying like this Mr5k. Trading blind here - ADVFN is knackered. Can't see the order book. It has partially come back on... Just seen some big buying coming in here. Volume has leapt to nearly 2.5m I think there has been a buyer in size at 101p and now 102p I think that is the order book showing fully... On this occasion...absolutel All im(ADVFN impaired)o DYOR | sphere25 | |
15/1/2025 14:33 | VIC has structural tailwinds, improved efficiencies from the new warehouse, and the moves into adjacent categories like tiles. It was good to see why they shut down Vic Plum today. Initially, I could not understand it but it does get a competitor out of the way and, more importantly, clears the way for better branding. I suspect that Plum was free-riding VIC's massive ad spend. I'd not be surprised to see them drop Plumbing from the name altogether in the coming years if the tiles and decor business develops and they become an all-around DIY and trade destination. And btw, you get the chance to co-invest with a seriously hungry and ambitious CEO, who owns most of the shares and is a proper long-term manager and investor. | mr5k | |
15/1/2025 13:40 | Okay good, US inflation print just hits. Both UK and US prints not causing any scary moves with yields now falling. Bond yields appear to be calming down overall with big players like bond king Rick Rieder calling a top around 5%. So some form of stabilisation is welcome now without having to worry about those scary pops higher that made you wonder whether yields could go screaming through 5% and cause bigger plunges here. Just need the stability to continue in the near term. VIC had a little plunge as well as a sign of what could have come, further to big moves in the likes of TW. and COST. ECEL had a plunge too along with the likes of INPP. They still aren't recovering, but I suspect there would have been bigger plunges had the bond markets not calmed down. The signs were all there. The US is having a little relief bounce now. I suspect we're back to worrying about the flatlining/contracti So with the big plunge crisis moves seemingly avoided, the market can get back to focusing on individual shares and who is going to perform and who isn't this year. VIC trading in line, but mentioning soft months. I suspect that will be an ongoing theme now. The recovery was supposed to happen this year, but it might now be pushed into next year. All imo DYOR | sphere25 | |
14/1/2025 19:24 | VIC can't deal with B2C in the way they think they would like to. Their policy of leaving a returns service to retail customers is telling. The reliance on trade customers is dangerous as their customers will move in droves to cheaper/friendlier platforms. Their price is over-stated given inevitable dropping margins in B2T. | gpm4 | |
06/1/2025 19:33 | lol I sold some VCP and had to double check the VIC position was still there ha They're both right next to each other on monitor list and on the share dealing positions. It is nice to catch some fireworks though, even if that VCP type of firework comes with a scary fuse. I'm just banking along the way - too much risk to be comfortable. If it eventually goes wrong, the rampers disappear without a care in the world causing massive losses for some. It is good when people point out the risks. People can bank along the way for a potentially free carry now. Fun fact: Half of the $46 trillion S&P500 market cap was represented by 10 US shares today. So back to VIC. What a bizarre day here. When I posted, just under 5k shares had been traded, and now the final count is in at a whopping 4m! They must have been keen to get back to the trading desks today. It doesn't get better than that in terms of an efforts by the buyers to clear the sellers. Got big blocks picked up at 97p and then big buying at full ask of 98p. There was one persistent order on the offer at 98p which was proving stubborn. It was only a small order but big blocks of buys were only causing small AT trades, so it just showed that it was a monster sell order. So definitely worth a go for a trade, but there could be a problem here now. With this much buying, the price should have cleared 98p and £1. This is anomalous buying for VIC. Sometimes the market can see that the sellers are too big and the price can reverse if the sellers aren't cleared. Find out tomorrow if the stubborn seller can be cleared. Probably take a little loss if not. Overall though, I guess days like today make this lacklustre market somewhat interesting. All imo DYOR | sphere25 | |
06/1/2025 16:12 | Yes its a nice kind of confusing tho :) | volsung | |
06/1/2025 15:34 | Just to add to the fun Volsung, the two Victoria's are now similar prices I'm getting confused too ha | sphere25 | |
06/1/2025 13:06 | This is all rather peculiar. It has gone from absolutely nothing exchanged to someone coming in to pick up big blocks at 97p: 934k @97p 720k @97p Volume is ballooning to 2.48m without delayed prints - highest in months. So does that mean sellers (who were airing on the cautionary side and took the price down from 120p) are being cleared here to allow a lurch higher into the results? Almost forced into having a go now with someone bullish enough to come in to buy like this before the update - wasn't expecting this! Picked up a tentative few to see if this clear out does allow a break over 98p and £1 for a possible pop higher to lob into before the results. Tricky one to read so a stop at under 95p. Still have the head in the VCP book. A nice ding-dong going on at 90p. It looks like a big buy order in the market clearing out all sellers from 88-89p (a mimic of Friday 10p lower). If the Bulls take control of 90p on the bid through the afternoon, it is going to lurch higher into the close for more momentum tomorrow. All imo DYOR | sphere25 | |
06/1/2025 09:30 | Interesting points sphere. I did buy some VCP on Friday as well so quite pleased with the pop up today. Will keep your points in mind though re banking profits | volsung | |
03/1/2025 10:24 | Perhaps a lucky mistake VT | volsung | |
03/1/2025 10:05 | A much better company !! No debt no structural decline of its core product | velocytongo | |
03/1/2025 08:43 | Bought some of these by mistake Thought I was buying VCP Oh well | volsung | |
23/11/2024 03:26 | On the latest episode of the Desert Island Investor we are joined by my good friend John Walter. With each castaway I ask them within our conversation to bring one of their holdings along for us to discuss and with John it was Victorian Plumbing - | markatkinson | |
06/11/2024 10:21 | Always interesting to taste a companies product prior to buying their shares ....as a private customer I have had a very poor experience, customer support is dreadful, no help line, no response to emails ...Trade maybe where their focus is but any interaction reflects on their brand and customer support is easy these days. | slicethepie | |
15/10/2024 06:46 | Good business and margins but not cheap at 107 share price with Pe 25 with rolling pe 18. Looks good but not much upside. | chester9 | |
18/9/2024 08:11 | looks like an encouraging set up for further performance. Year end Sept, so a trading statement in the relatively near future beckons. | eigthwonder | |
18/9/2024 08:08 | looks like the worm has turned. market appears firmer to b&q, the cost benefits from the improved infrastructure and the acquisition of victoria plumb allows them a more segmented offer. | woozle1 | |
22/8/2024 15:08 | I think an upside earnings surprise. The joy of modern plumbing is that the quality of parts has deteriorated and needs regular changing. One can defer carpet for a long time and likewise tiles. But leaking pipes, no. | mr5k | |
22/8/2024 14:50 | something is afoot............. | cottlet | |
23/5/2024 15:07 | Still a lot of buyers coming in | gswredland | |
21/5/2024 20:28 | Woozle1, a business in administration isn't going to be spending much if anything on marketing, that's almost certainly why revenues will have collapsed. | 74tom | |
21/5/2024 08:38 | Still scratching my head about this one. Why didn't Vic buy this from the administrator and why now? That revenues (see below) have fallen so much would imply it was about to disappear and that it could not live with Vic. I doubt this has been good for AHK as revenues have collapsed from £100m to less than £50m (Vic says £22m is 0.5x times sales), which means they will have been funding operating losses and probably substantial ones; which means that AHK has not made much money on this transaction and may have approached Vic to buy them out. I like to hear more color in the results. | woozle1 |
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