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VIC Victorian Plumbing Group Plc

105.50
0.00 (0.00%)
24 Jan 2025 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Victorian Plumbing Group Plc LSE:VIC London Ordinary Share GB00BNVVHD43 ORD GBP0.001
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 105.50 569,586 16:29:52
Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price
105.50 106.00 106.00 104.00 105.00
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
Catalog, Mail-order Houses 285.1M 11.8M 0.0362 29.14 344.28M
Last Trade Time Trade Type Trade Size Trade Price Currency
16:41:33 O 61,975 102.1553 GBX

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Posted at 26/1/2025 08:20 by Victorian Plumbing Daily Update
Victorian Plumbing Group Plc is listed in the Catalog, Mail-order Houses sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker VIC. The last closing price for Victorian Plumbing was 105.50p.
Victorian Plumbing currently has 326,334,279 shares in issue. The market capitalisation of Victorian Plumbing is £344,282,664.
Victorian Plumbing has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of 29.14.
This morning VIC shares opened at 105p
Posted at 15/1/2025 14:33 by mr5k
VIC has structural tailwinds, improved efficiencies from the new warehouse, and the moves into adjacent categories like tiles. It was good to see why they shut down Vic Plum today. Initially, I could not understand it but it does get a competitor out of the way and, more importantly, clears the way for better branding. I suspect that Plum was free-riding VIC's massive ad spend. I'd not be surprised to see them drop Plumbing from the name altogether in the coming years if the tiles and decor business develops and they become an all-around DIY and trade destination.

And btw, you get the chance to co-invest with a seriously hungry and ambitious CEO, who owns most of the shares and is a proper long-term manager and investor.
Posted at 15/1/2025 13:40 by sphere25
Okay good, US inflation print just hits. Both UK and US prints not causing any scary moves with yields now falling. Bond yields appear to be calming down overall with big players like bond king Rick Rieder calling a top around 5%.

So some form of stabilisation is welcome now without having to worry about those scary pops higher that made you wonder whether yields could go screaming through 5% and cause bigger plunges here. Just need the stability to continue in the near term.

VIC had a little plunge as well as a sign of what could have come, further to big moves in the likes of TW. and COST. ECEL had a plunge too along with the likes of INPP. They still aren't recovering, but I suspect there would have been bigger plunges had the bond markets not calmed down.

The signs were all there.

The US is having a little relief bounce now.

I suspect we're back to worrying about the flatlining/contractionary environment with rates higher for longer here. So still gloom to deal with, just relief it isn't worse.

So with the big plunge crisis moves seemingly avoided, the market can get back to focusing on individual shares and who is going to perform and who isn't this year.

VIC trading in line, but mentioning soft months.

I suspect that will be an ongoing theme now. The recovery was supposed to happen this year, but it might now be pushed into next year.

All imo
DYOR
Posted at 14/1/2025 19:24 by gpm4
VIC can't deal with B2C in the way they think they would like to. Their policy of leaving a returns service to retail customers is telling. The reliance on trade customers is dangerous as their customers will move in droves to cheaper/friendlier platforms. Their price is over-stated given inevitable dropping margins in B2T.
Posted at 06/1/2025 19:33 by sphere25
lol

I sold some VCP and had to double check the VIC position was still there ha

They're both right next to each other on monitor list and on the share dealing positions.

It is nice to catch some fireworks though, even if that VCP type of firework comes with a scary fuse. I'm just banking along the way - too much risk to be comfortable. If it eventually goes wrong, the rampers disappear without a care in the world causing massive losses for some. It is good when people point out the risks. People can bank along the way for a potentially free carry now.

Fun fact:

Half of the $46 trillion S&P500 market cap was represented by 10 US shares today.


So back to VIC. What a bizarre day here. When I posted, just under 5k shares had been traded, and now the final count is in at a whopping 4m! They must have been keen to get back to the trading desks today.

It doesn't get better than that in terms of an efforts by the buyers to clear the sellers. Got big blocks picked up at 97p and then big buying at full ask of 98p. There was one persistent order on the offer at 98p which was proving stubborn. It was only a small order but big blocks of buys were only causing small AT trades, so it just showed that it was a monster sell order.

So definitely worth a go for a trade, but there could be a problem here now. With this much buying, the price should have cleared 98p and £1. This is anomalous buying for VIC. Sometimes the market can see that the sellers are too big and the price can reverse if the sellers aren't cleared.

Find out tomorrow if the stubborn seller can be cleared. Probably take a little loss if not.

Overall though, I guess days like today make this lacklustre market somewhat interesting.

All imo
DYOR
Posted at 06/1/2025 13:06 by sphere25
This is all rather peculiar. It has gone from absolutely nothing exchanged to someone coming in to pick up big blocks at 97p:

934k @97p
720k @97p

Volume is ballooning to 2.48m without delayed prints - highest in months.

So does that mean sellers (who were airing on the cautionary side and took the price down from 120p) are being cleared here to allow a lurch higher into the results?

Almost forced into having a go now with someone bullish enough to come in to buy like this before the update - wasn't expecting this!

Picked up a tentative few to see if this clear out does allow a break over 98p and £1 for a possible pop higher to lob into before the results.

Tricky one to read so a stop at under 95p.


Still have the head in the VCP book. A nice ding-dong going on at 90p. It looks like a big buy order in the market clearing out all sellers from 88-89p (a mimic of Friday 10p lower). If the Bulls take control of 90p on the bid through the afternoon, it is going to lurch higher into the close for more momentum tomorrow.


All imo
DYOR
Posted at 21/5/2024 08:38 by woozle1
Still scratching my head about this one. Why didn't Vic buy this from the administrator and why now? That revenues (see below) have fallen so much would imply it was about to disappear and that it could not live with Vic.

I doubt this has been good for AHK as revenues have collapsed from £100m to less than £50m (Vic says £22m is 0.5x times sales), which means they will have been funding operating losses and probably substantial ones; which means that AHK has not made much money on this transaction and may have approached Vic to buy them out.

I like to hear more color in the results.
Posted at 20/5/2024 14:55 by 74tom
It's been in administration since last September, so I don't think the figures quoted for this year are that relevant. Historics on companies house show it was doing ~£57-63m from 2017-19, £70.9m in 2020, £99m in 2021 and £113m in 2022.

Looking at the balance sheet, it was solid at 28/02/22, although cash had dropped sharply and debtors + inventory increased. I'd speculate they had cash flow issues from taking on too much stock.

On a different note, it'll surely save VIC a fortune on online marketing spend
Posted at 20/5/2024 07:08 by lennonsalive
That's quite a bit for vic plum, but makes sense I suppose
Posted at 20/11/2023 16:16 by velocytongo
I'm wondering if Victoria Plum ("Plum") has thrown in the towel. Type in any bathroom-related product and VIC appears first and there is no Plum listing. Drench also appears lots as I guess they make a pitch to take Plum's business. Its parent co Beyond Retail Ltd made £44m in revenue and £2m in EBITDA but £10m cash in the bank and no debt in 2022. Beyond's GM is 33% as they are predominantly distributing third-party brands.

Plum had revenue of £113m in 2022 and £1.4m EBITDA and got through all its cash and more last year.

VIC now trading below 5x EV/EBITDA 2024 numbers, which prob looks conservative. VIC will do £285m this year rising to £315m next. This was v achievable with the ongoing structural shift online, the pitch to trade, and new products; but with the problems at Plum this is too low. These shares should be worth a lot more.

I'd be surprised if these shares don't pop on the results this week.

DYOR.
Posted at 22/10/2023 10:56 by velocytongo
It's cheaper for VIC to put them out of business by upping the internet/sm ad spend than buying a business and taking on the liabilities. The company that bought Vic Plumb is v thinly capitalised and will unlikely be able to support it for long. Vic has scale, capital, and a ruthless focus. I just wonder if the CEO wants the bother of the public listing, which is why I've doubled down.

Given the weakness of the £/$ I would not be surprised to see a US e-tailer snap them up.
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Victorian Plumbing Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

What is the current Victorian Plumbing share price?
The current share price of Victorian Plumbing is 105.50p
How many Victorian Plumbing shares are in issue?
Victorian Plumbing has 326,334,279 shares in issue
What is the market cap of Victorian Plumbing?
The market capitalisation of Victorian Plumbing is GBP 344.28M
What is the 1 year trading range for Victorian Plumbing share price?
Victorian Plumbing has traded in the range of 74.80p to 123.50p during the past year
What is the PE ratio of Victorian Plumbing?
The price to earnings ratio of Victorian Plumbing is 29.14
What is the cash to sales ratio of Victorian Plumbing?
The cash to sales ratio of Victorian Plumbing is 1.21
What is the reporting currency for Victorian Plumbing?
Victorian Plumbing reports financial results in GBP
What is the latest annual turnover for Victorian Plumbing?
The latest annual turnover of Victorian Plumbing is GBP 285.1M
What is the latest annual profit for Victorian Plumbing?
The latest annual profit of Victorian Plumbing is GBP 11.8M
What is the registered address of Victorian Plumbing?
The registered address for Victorian Plumbing is 22 GRIMROD PLACE, SKELMERSDAL, LANCASHIRE, WN8 9UU
What is the Victorian Plumbing website address?
The website address for Victorian Plumbing is www.victorianplumbingplc.com
Which industry sector does Victorian Plumbing operate in?
Victorian Plumbing operates in the CATALOG, MAIL-ORDER HOUSES sector