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[grabster] 27/10/2024 18:19

laginaneil - Graphenea maybe?



(graphite mine owner Volt Carbon Technologies were tagged at the foot of the report. They appear to work with Graphenea. Though it may be that they merely appear alongside each other on a news page)

[laginaneil] 27/10/2024 17:28

For the interested people;



'3D printed construction ' etc.

Who's graphene I wonder ?

[grabster] 27/10/2024 13:14

Quite. There are companies already operating 3DCP machines and related gantry tracks in numbers big enough to take on construction projects. ( eg: ). Versarien, as far as I am aware, have just one French-made 'printing mantis' machine that the company is playing with behind closed doors at its rural HQ. I don't imagine they'll be equipping themselves with a fleet of them. To describe Versarien as some kind of player in the 3DCP construction field is delusional. They've splashed out half a million quid on a fun toy - and they enjoy showing visitors how it works. That doesn't win them any credibility as a construction company. Versarien does have opportunities to feed its graphene expertise into the mixes being employed by the real players.

I imagine the printer that it owns (presuming it isn't rented) will remain at HQ and be classified as a testbed. It won't be carted off on a lowloader to work in the mud on some real building site. It's not going to get its feet dirty. They've printed some planters, some roadside sample wall panels, a garden pod, a picnic table - mostly in 1960/70s cringe styles that any current architect would dismiss as dated and corny.

see my 3DCP thread here on advfn:

[willoicc] 27/10/2024 12:04

The problem with VRS is that it has no products of its own. It can make graphene OK but has decided that it will let the customers do the real work making stuff and just take a royalty. Good luck with that.

The first large company that sees a big enough use for graphene will just buy out VRS for a pittance and then announce how it is going to transform their industry e.g. construction companies.

I do not take any pleasure from the heart-breaking destruction being visited on innocent men, women and children. Still, when peace arrives, the sooner the better, the ruins of Ukraine, Gaza and Lebanon will be a huge market opportunity for a massive program of construction of low-carbon 3D-printed buildings, providing a rapid framework for their people to fit out.

Who do you think will get those contracts, clue whoever has a huge fleet of 3D-printing machines and all the people with the expertise to utilise them?

[dickiebird2] 27/10/2024 07:49

Del Boy is out of a job !

[britannicvs] 25/10/2024 19:27

Maybe in the future

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What future?

[kemorkid] 25/10/2024 18:51

I don’t think VRS could afford or entice an experienced successful CEO presently.
Maybe in the future .

[pwhite73] 24/10/2024 14:14

1manchild - Yes I agree and carbon fibre in its early days being a typical example of where graphene is today. The trouble is so little is still known about graphene by your average businessman. Like carbon fibre only people who know the business of graphene at the scientific level can persuade multi-million pound R&D of multinationals to move away from their existing decades old tried and trusted formulas.

This is where the likes of the new CEO comes in. He is giving lectures and presenting at exhibitions all over the world to the people that matter. As Terrance Barkan head of the Graphene Council said, "He rates Dr Stephen Hodge as among the top five most knowledgeable people on graphene in the world".

The less educated here and there are plenty of them say the trips abroad are nothing but jollies at shareholders expense. They are just plain wrong.

No matter what success a businessman has had in the past he won't get multinationals to sign on the dotted line if he simply tells them that - "graphene will improve your bottom line by 100%" because to date there is no evidence to support such claims unlike other materials such as plastics and rubber.

Once again NR would have never succeeded no matter how brilliant a CEO he was because the graphene market was simply not there for his products and services. However things are improving exponentially as time moves on.

Glad you're beginning to see the light I've been shining on this thread for the past year.

[1manchild] 24/10/2024 10:34

Morning PWhite

For the first time in a long time we totally agree on your point. Previous advanced materials took an age to get into the market and carbon fibre is a brilliant example.

The McClaren story is also a good example of a combination of science - yes because it is ultra important to get it right - but also overseas networks coming together due to rejections from the UK entities - to ensure the product got to market. In effect - what should have happened in the UK ended up happening in the US - and Japan too - because the investment from those willing to see results and then take it to another level was the driver to then get the science right.

There is a snapshot about the evolution here:

[pwhite73] 24/10/2024 06:58

Graphene: 20 years of a 'miracle' made in Manchester 22 October 2024

"Twenty years on, researchers like Professor James Baker say we are now approaching "tipping point" where graphene will start to live up to the hype.

One of the challenges around new materials as people expect them to come to market very quickly. However, if you look at past new materials like carbon fibre or silicon that you see in everyday life, it was probably 25 to 30 years from discovery through to the first products in the marketplace. But, he said, the time will come when "people will find that graphene starts to touch their lives".

[philbyk144] 23/10/2024 17:10

He's on after Alec Baldwin's lecture on gun safety

[dil 21] 23/10/2024 16:37

Same way as writes RNS’s … wing it :-)

[snaffleclamp] 22/10/2024 23:51

How the hell can Hodge give a lecture on ‘Commercialisation’ FFS

[1manchild] 22/10/2024 16:16

PWhite - 'No, I haven’t changed my mind. MCK Tech or CVD has nothing to do with VRS now. That the CEO has been invited to give a lecture on "Commercialisation and Regulatory Pathways for Graphene Innovations" shows the quality of who is now at the helm of VRS.'

That will be an interesting lecture if it is from real life experiences. It will go something like -

Commercialisation - we haven't quite got there yet - and in fact we are not currently using graphene in our core business anyway

Regulatory pathways - we are still awaiting cementene accreditation after all these years - and although armageddon may come first we live in hope

Graphene innovations - we knocked out a cracking lunar lifestyle pod which I signed off and were for sale at £thousands - and we sold none

Given the financial position of VRS it might be a good idea for the CEO use his team in Korea to deliver the messages - with him staying at home to save some money. it truly amazes me - it really does.

PWhite -if our CEO was being paid as a key note speaker then there would be some validity in your thought process. He isn't though is he and it is a really small local event with only 3 companies in the graphene zone.

Please wake up and smell the roses.

[grabster] 22/10/2024 14:04

PW - try three not two
a)meets regs?
b)works?
c)pays?

[dil 21] 22/10/2024 11:08

Another waste of time jolly imo.

[pwhite73] 22/10/2024 11:01

1manchild - No, I haven’t changed my mind. MCK Tech or CVD has nothing to do with VRS now. That the CEO has been invited to give a lecture on "Commercialisation and Regulatory Pathways for Graphene Innovations" shows the quality of who is now at the helm of VRS.

Once again at this stage its all about the science not the management. The construction, textile and materials industry are not concerned or will they be persuaded by brilliant management. They have their own top management and R&D departments. All they want to know is:-

a) Does the product meet regulatory requirements.

b) Does the product work.



“This week, Versarien® plc CEO Stephen Hodge and Versarien Korea's Executive Director Rachel Y. Kim will be attending Carbon Korea 2024 from October 23rd to October 25th at the Yangjae aT Center in Seoul! On Day 1, Stephen will be presenting on "Commercialisation and Regulatory Pathways for Graphene Innovations," and we’ll be exhibiting alongside MCK Tech and their CEO Seungmin Cho in the Graphene Zone.“

[1manchild] 22/10/2024 10:40

'PWhite: Seungmin ChoSeungmin CEO at MCK Tech 20 hours ago

"MCK Tech will be attending Carbon Korea 2024 from October 23rd to October 25th at the Yangjae AT Center. We will be exhibiting various graphene products with our collaborator Versarien at the Graphene Pavilion. I'll be presenting the latest CVD graphene development trends at the Graphene Session on the October 23rd at 2pm. We are looking forward to seeing you there."'


Whilst we bat on the same side in wanting VRS to be successful, but have polar opposite ideas on the management and how to get to a point of being successful - I find this post odd as you told us last week that this isn't part of the core business - and that you would not mind if we didn't receive the second payment from them?

What is it to be - and have you changed your mind given what MCK Tech have announced?

[fireball xl5] 22/10/2024 08:06

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/versarien-plc_carbon-korea-2024-activity-7254393545652891649-UeMj?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android

[pwhite73] 21/10/2024 21:51

Seungmin ChoSeungmin CEO at MCK Tech 20 hours ago

"MCK Tech will be attending Carbon Korea 2024 from October 23rd to October 25th at the Yangjae AT Center. We will be exhibiting various graphene products with our collaborator Versarien at the Graphene Pavilion. I'll be presenting the latest CVD graphene development trends at the Graphene Session on the October 23rd at 2pm. We are looking forward to seeing you there."

[bbmsionlypostafter mk2] 21/10/2024 08:57

I think many LTHs have had NR & VRS deeply implant their butts already!

[deltalo] 21/10/2024 08:21

So your an expert on butt implants, Good for you.