Versarien Share Discussion Threads

[loglorry1] 10/2/2020 11:13

@schmally

Neill "decided" to cease engagement on social media and private DSICORD groups, did he? Are you sure about that? Nothing to do with him absolutely blasting through corporate governance rules and being hauled over the coals for outrageous behaviour? No, according to you, he stroked his chin, had a good think and decided to quietly withdraw after years of promotion.

DISCORD was just the latest in a line of disasters from Neill.

Do you remember the hiring of Patrick Abbot to head up the "US hub" - a man up on financial fraud charges in that country?

Do you remember the BIGT fiasco?

Do you want me to put a dossier up of all the "mistakes" made?
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With regards to Discord, you had access to every comment made and yet you found nothing incriminating whatsoever. I think it's clear that if anything inappropriate had been said, Neill would have been forced by the Nomad or the FCA to clarify.

The only thing that has happened is that Neill has now decided to cease engagement on social media or other platforms.

Discord was a "no news" story, as you know. I bet when your mate screen shot everything, you and the gang were massively disappointed there was nothing of any note to use against Neill.

[ashehzi] 10/2/2020 11:11

VRS has not denied placing but mentioned enough cash and emphasised graphene commercialisation, makes me think of inward investment including PIs & HNW. Surely, won't be discounted.

[schmally] 10/2/2020 11:11

I note that one of the reasons cited for HS2 costs being so expensive is that "the track will also sit on concrete "slab track" which is durable but more expensive to buy than your more conventional ballast."

I wonder what might help reduce the concrete costs massively??? We all know Aecom are keen to utilise grapheme in concrete so that only half the amount is required to get the same results and we know that Aecom have named VRS as their "Material Partner" for graphene applications.

This is where the costings and budgets for major infrastructure projects like HS2 are so flawed. They price everything for a 10-20 year project using todays technology and materials costs (with inflations priced in), whereas what they should be doing, is setting the challenge for potential new and existing suppliers to provide the same results at lower prices with new tech and materials, to encourage innovation and then to back those businesses with innovation and grant funding to deliver the desired results. It's then a win win

[club sandwich] 10/2/2020 11:10

What would y'all rather - an (up to) 15% fundraise with the MC at £200m, or at £75m?...

[nellyb] 10/2/2020 11:07

log, what do you do for a living?

[loglorry1] 10/2/2020 11:07

More lies from @schmally. Were they not foreced to update on Patrick Abbot too and more recently provide the "US Update" to fess up that the US office was not in fact as potrayed a US Hub and laboratory.

That's two more than one but I can probably find more if you wish.

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Time after time. Hardly Log. Once!

[nellyb] 10/2/2020 11:06

schmally, who was the 'mate' who screen shot everything?

[loglorry1] 10/2/2020 11:04

@RogerTheGrouch

Would you like to withdraw the comment about any investment being made at a huge premium, as you have just made it up and there is nothing to suggest that at all?

As it stands, we don't even have any reason to believe that an investment is on its way. Certainly, none of you were willing to bet on it like I was.

If you want people to believe anything you write you need to stick to facts rather than create some sort of Utopian world full of made up rubbish. I guess being a cartoonist you should be forgiven for embellishment but people here stand to lose life changing amounts of money - be careful.

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One could conclude that the Chinese inward investment is now very close which will Versarien always wanted to involve PIs and IIs. This is a type of fundraise but as it will be at a huge premium, giving 15% cash in the bank whilst opens the door to China its a very attractive fundraise.

[schmally] 10/2/2020 11:01

Time after time. Hardly Log. Once!

With regards to Discord, you had access to every comment made and yet you found nothing incriminating whatsoever. I think it's clear that if anything inappropriate had been said, Neill would have been forced by the Nomad or the FCA to clarify.

The only thing that has happened is that Neill has now decided to cease engagement on social media or other platforms.

Discord was a "no news" story, as you know. I bet when your mate screen shot everything, you and the gang were massively disappointed there was nothing of any note to use against Neill.

I'd love to see your gangs private discussion threads. Now that would be of genuinely interest to the FCA.

[tim3416] 10/2/2020 10:57

So now Loglorry backtracking on deliberately implying VRS is a fraud! Good move...laughable really ;-)

[rogerthegrouch] 10/2/2020 10:56

We're starting to see the truth prevail. This day was always coming. The volume of Log posts and articles by Tom (2 already today, 1 last night even) absolutely stinks of desparation. They're out of ideas, clean out of ammo.

Truth always prevails

Up we go.

[nellyb] 10/2/2020 10:54

Log, what do you do for a living - you spend such an auful lot of time here.

[loglorry1] 10/2/2020 10:49

@schmally

VRS is one of the few honest companies on AIM?

How many other honest CEOs advise on private DISCORD groups how to write posts on advfn?

How many other honest CEOs are forced to issue clarification RNSs time after time?

How many other honest CEOs issue RNSs like the BIGT one then sell into the spike created?

I could go on and on and on, but there'd be too much to list. VRS may not be a fraud, but it is and always has been a massive over-promotion and those last in have been crucified. Anyone buying at these levels will be crucified too, IMHO.
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Exposing AIM frauds is like shooting fish in a barrel Log.

No need to waste time on one of the few honest companies.

[alchemy] 10/2/2020 10:48

Ok ... it will all pan out I'm sure.

[loglorry1] 10/2/2020 10:45

No I'm not but hey why let the truth get in the way of a good smear.

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So now Loglorry is implying VRS is a fraud based on the fact Bobbie Hilliam was nomad for Quindell?

[loglorry1] 10/2/2020 10:44

@schmally I'd agree there are a lot of frauds and promotions on AIM. As I said if you object to what Tom W says on Versarien then why not take it up with him. He's a big boy.

[rovi70] 10/2/2020 10:41

Versarien PLC
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New graphene-based material to increase recording density of data storage devices

@versarien @2DTECH #graphene #2dmaterials #datastorage #BigData #spintronics #magneticmemory

[tim3416] 10/2/2020 10:41

So now Loglorry is implying VRS is a fraud based on the fact Bobbie Hilliam was nomad for Quindell? When will he stop this nonsense? Talk about falling in love with a share! This really is a personal vendetta now. Neill Ricketts could announce a JV with Tesla and he would still find something to whine about...Pathetic:-)

[schmally] 10/2/2020 10:39

Exposing AIM frauds is like shooting fish in a barrel Log.

No need to waste time on one of the few honest companies.

Oh, and it's a shame that Tom didn't do the same level of apparent due diligence on any of his tips and stocks he purchased on behalf of his old clients who it seems lost millions before he was ousted.

[vs9] 10/2/2020 10:38

Good point Woody, Gnanomat did indeed receive a significant research grant:hTTps://cordis.europa.eu/project/id/738864

[loglorry1] 10/2/2020 10:33

So @schmally nothing has changed apart from the things that have changed?

Feel free to say what you like to Tom W. He's a big boy I'm sure he can defend himself. As I've said I don't agree with everything he publishes but he's exposed and helped to expose a lot of frauds and promotions on AIM. I think he's been commended by the FCA for his work on Quindell. You might remember Bobby Hiliam (VRS NOMAD) was also the NOMAD for Quindell.

[schmally] 10/2/2020 10:29

Log,

As the info included in my last post illustrates, why would anyone trust anything you or Tom say. History of lies, deceit and dodgy dealing by your lovely contact list.

Please feel free to comment on the very revealing blog post regarding Tom. I know you love a good blog Log.

And my comment that nothing has changed alludes to the fact that negotiations with global majors are still ongoing, cash is still sufficient for many months, the business is in control of cash burn and can reduce if necessary. Nothing has changed in that respect, with the exception that it would be reasonable to assume deals are now closer, especially with MAS and Aecom.

I wonder who shareholders should trust more. A crooked gang of shysters with an appalling history of misinformation and failed business transactions behind them, or an honest management team, with DIT involvement and the support & backing of multiple global businesses, UK academia, GEIC and grant funding.

I'm sorry if the truth hurts Log, but you and your gang will be forever despised with no chance of ever gaining even 1% of the respect enjoyed by the hardworking VRS team

[loglorry1] 10/2/2020 10:27

@RogerTheGrouch,
You're making stuff up again. TW has not described today's RNS as being "unfair" - he says specifically that,

"Versarien (VRS) has today issued an RNS which suggests that its Nomad, Bobbie Hilliam at Canaccord, has allowed it to drive a coach and horses through AIM Rules 10 and 11."



TW makes some very cogent points in his letter and VRS will be forced to disclose payments made (or not made) to Gnanomat, IMHO.

I don't see why any shareholder would object to having crucial information needed to help with cash burn forecasts.

A more pertinent question might be why does VRS constantly have to be forced to reveal the truth behind public RNSs on a constant basis? If they just told the truth in the first place, critics would have nothing to work with.

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Lol - I see Tom has written a letter to the Aim regulator because he thinks today’s RNS is unfair. Some people just can’t accept they are wrong. Talk about flapping! Hahaha

[adejuk] 10/2/2020 10:25

roger
i imagine that pizzaman had not drunk enough to cure his hangover until 10 am.

[woodpeckers] 10/2/2020 10:21

The terms of the Gnanomat deal were published at the time and are clear to see below.

Gnanomat showed great confidence in Versarien by choosing to take a large proportion in Versarien shares.

If the details of the arrangements between the two companies are being made flexible then that shows even more confidence on the part of Gnanomat that it is happy with it’s investment in Versarien. I seem to remember Gnanomat won a research grant so this could be the reason that they are not in a hurry cash...


The purchase was closed for £2,647,000 (around €3 million), to be settled in cash (£673,000) and by the issue of new shares. Gnanomat will use the cash to scale up its pilot plant.
The agreement also includes a loan of €1,250,000 from Versarien to Gnanomat. The first €750,000 will be provided 12 months from completion of the purchase, and the rest at 18 months. The loan will be repaid in quarterly installments over three years, with an interest rate of 6%.