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[club sandwich] 26/11/2019 13:49

RTG - you forgot

Jointer - "It's happening"

Can't imagine why you forgot that one?

and do you mean 'mis-use', you illiterate cretin?

[grahamsmalls] 26/11/2019 13:47

Haha RTG that was a cracking post!

[realcooltrader] 26/11/2019 13:46

Seneca if I'm not mistaken. I knew my Latin A Level would come in handy one day, just didn't think it would take 46 years.

[rogerthegrouch] 26/11/2019 13:40

Let me summarise the broken record:

Club – Ricketts is a rank incompetent (insert miss-use of Latin) hate hate hate
Shelvin – we’re doomed, we’re all doomed
Teepee – (insert completely irrelevant comment)
Teepee – (insert another completely irrelevant comment)
Rainbow - Pennyland fast approaching
NYboy – Bulls are weak buy one of my stocks XXX
Festario – Clubbeth Earl of Sandwich – let me nosh you off. Dean hates me – I can’t for the life of me think why
Club – Ricketts is a rank incompetent (Qui totum vult totum perdit) hate hate hate

[grahamsmalls] 26/11/2019 13:33

You're sick of hearing Jointer saying "it's happening" too eh? Isn't he an irrevocable bore?

[luckyorange] 26/11/2019 13:28

Certainly don't need a crystal ball on here to know what is going to be said on here every day, like a bloody loop and groundhog day ffs.

[66sequoia] 26/11/2019 13:26

Https://twitter.com/GrapheneCouncil/status/1199302734014550017?s=09

[club sandwich] 26/11/2019 13:21

pshevlin - I invested two years ago. Feels like five years... ;-)

[rogerthegrouch] 26/11/2019 13:21

and there's the cloud

[pshevlin] 26/11/2019 13:18

people keep saying "if you had invested 5 years ago". I would imagine most of us didn't and are somewhat underwater (which I am not with what remaining managed funds I have). On the other hand if I wanted peace and quiet I would just have money in them as they have averaged over 15%. Instead I have placed trust in a compny which I will expect to do significantly better on a risk reward basis but at the moment it isn't performing. I continue to hope that it will.

[club sandwich] 26/11/2019 13:14

FF - wrong, I'm afraid.

Yes the share price has risen - on the back of potential, rumour and hype. But nothing has been delivered to underpin that increased sp, which is why it has fluctuated between c180p and c90p over the past year or so. Nobody can accurately value the company becaise nobody has anything to go on. And of course many who bought at higher prices - whether the 145p fund raise or those like a friend of mine who bought even higher than that (172p in his case) - are well under water and have been almost since they bought. So your point is...?

By delivery I do not mean the share price I mean provable, significant, commercial, contractually-binding agreements.

Yes, the value of my holding has gone up, though I'm stil underwater on my last two purchases, one in the high 90s and one at 120-something (from memory).

In any case, you're being disingenuous. We both know that the share price rise to date will be dwarfed if VRS does ever sign the kind of deals we're all here for: China, other country deals, large global companies. Each could need hundreds or thousands of tonnes.

That's why we're all here, and that is what Ricketts has failed to deliver. Once again: I'm not at all surprised that China is taking so long to land - I am VERY surprised that not a single other thing, not a single supply contract large or small, has been signed, this year or ever.

These things take time - VRS has HAD time. Testing needs to be done - testing has BEEN done. What HASN'T been done is the actual signing of a contract.

Now why is that?

[forestfred] 26/11/2019 12:59

Cs

Putting it perspective from my point of view as a investor .

It’s Worth a look and see how much £10000 would be worth on some of the best global managed funds over the last 5 years .

Then look to see what £10000 would be with worth now and at its peak if you invested in Vrs 5 years ago .

All be it a different risk profile of course .

And then £10000 in the building society over 5 years .

To say Vrs has not done anything is just simply not true quite the opposite in fact . .

The share price was approx what 12- 15p 5 years ago.

That’s a massive %%%% return even where we are now .

Knowing how long you have been on this message board if invested at that time .

I can only guess you have made a great deal of money and had a decent return from a company that has done nothing .


Ff

[club sandwich] 26/11/2019 12:54

NY Boy - well the way things stand the next fundraise won't be at 145p, that's for sure. Feel so sorry for the poor suckers who put their faith in Ricketts, bought at that price and have been trapped underwater ever since, waiting interminably for him to deliver and being disappointed again and again.

[jointer13] 26/11/2019 12:51

"the next stage for the CGIA is to tackle one of the industrys biggest problems which, as Xiao puts it, is that the quality of graphene products is totally uncontrollable. In 2016, he therefore helped to launch the China International Graphene Industry Union, which is developing the countrys first set of standards."

then they test our quality materials.

and then we go from province to national.

what does that tell you...

the only verified graphene producer at commercial scale in the world.

its all about the quality.

[jointer13] 26/11/2019 12:49

you do know we have gone from provincial to national...absolutely incredible...going national in china...just think about it rainbow

it just exploded...mw.

[jointer13] 26/11/2019 12:46

bigt on its way rainbow...just have a little patience.

[ny boy] 26/11/2019 12:43

rainbow... a tad disrespectful Sir...Graphene mugs. Please!

[ny boy] 26/11/2019 12:40

Just wondering about the monthly cash burn here, also how long before a cash call?

[jointer13] 26/11/2019 12:38

the graphene revolution.

its taken the time to get to this point weather you think its long/short is irrelevant.

we are where we are.

all ready for the next stage.

there are quite a lot of posters on here who understand how it works.

there is also a few who mouth off for the sake of mouthing off.

all looking good for vrs.

[rainbow23] 26/11/2019 12:34

It difficult to understand why so many allegedly intelligent investors still continue to believe that a Company without orders or revenues and a history of non delivery is going to make them rich. They've been fed a continuous diet of BS but despite numerous warnings still can't see that they're being taken for mugs. Anyone seen Bigt?

[rovi70] 26/11/2019 12:28

total peace of mind. the filter

[runthejoules] 26/11/2019 12:25

Can someone DM me please & invite me to the twitter group please, if that's not gone to poo too? Ta.

[tini5] 26/11/2019 12:25

Delivery still sitting well within my time frame. First purchase was July 2016 but only really got interested towards the back end of 2017.

Said I had a 3-5 year timeframe and would see where it was at the end of that. Not even at the three year mark yet.

As far as I'm concerned there IS no failure to deliver.