Tanfield Share Discussion Threads

[knicol46] 16/8/2014 21:29

Anyone still invest in Tanfield? Like watching paint dry on a wet day. Low volume trading as usual daily.

[jam2day] 15/8/2014 13:10

one would have thought that these options would have been triggered by results
and not a reward for hammering shareholders investments.

[multiplural] 15/8/2014 08:11

Good to see management invest.

[m.t.glass] 15/8/2014 08:09

Half an hour before close yesterday:


Tanfield has issued 2,231,334 new ordinary shares following the exercise of share options.

[m.t.glass] 14/8/2014 08:02

Smith confirming the purchase of the shell company to obtain a minor listing - adds little to what was previously stated.

This approach was previously presented as a stepping stone towards a subsequent second attempt at a full listing. it'll be interesting to see whether any big enough investors buy in between the two moves.

[johnga] 05/8/2014 21:32

I can't imagine that the installation of what amounts to nothing other than a more powerful version of my Honda e20i generator adds to huge additional costs. It is the difference between 100 odd miles and 350 miles range when required and ONLY when required. That generator could also be chopped out and powered by any other means as seen fit.

At least we're seeing the likes of taxis kickstarting the momentum. Note there was no price premium to this new taxi technology and the benefit of fuel savings goes straight to the operator. Not what we're seeing with Smith offerings.

City transport emmission regulations will likely determine speed of uptake now....remembering that Mayors and local councils want to be re-elected as their terms allow.

2020 no old diesel cars will be allowed into London.

It's slow progress.

[m.t.glass] 05/8/2014 20:40

There have always been two classes of hybrid - parallel hybrid and series hybrid.

In a parallel hybrid the electric motor and the combustion engine are each connected via a drivetrain to the wheels, and capable of driving either/or electric/petrol. In a series hybrid the petrol erngine only exists to charge the batteries and has no drivetrain connection. That's not something new - it's always been the case. Series-hybrid has always been the better option in my view, as the engine can be small and can operate at a constant ideal rpm.

But all hybrids to me are merely a stopgap, not a longterm industry. Smith were absolutely right to target the specific (huge) market for depot-based delivery fleets in which the whole paraphenalia of combustion engines can be ditched, rather than having two motor systems that both need servicing. It is a market where range limitations are not an issue.

There are all-electric taxis in use - and I see them becoming compulsory in many cities very soon.

[johnga] 05/8/2014 18:22

..except it's not a hybrid in the purest sense because the petrol motor only charges the batteries. It does not drive the vehicle as does, for example, the Prius which IS a hybrid.

As I've outlined the petrol motor need not be used at all if driving within the normal charged range of the battery bank. However if a long run is required the range is there also.

Anyway, as with all good solutions a compromise is often the best. This seems a pretty good solution to me. It also widens the target market.

[m.t.glass] 05/8/2014 17:55

Yeah, but it's a hybrid. Not a proper EV. Proper EVs make excellent cabs.

[johnga] 05/8/2014 10:56

Excellent compromise for higher mileage electric commercial vehicles aka London cab:



If you don't want to use the built-in petrol powered charger just stop and recharge from electric source....and look at the solar charging bay (from position 7.0). Amazing!

Now why didn't Manganese Bronze and Smith Electric come up with this fabulous solution? Too much time manipulating the share price through their broker, in the pub dutifully running the Remuneration Committee and worrying about their pension contributions and discretionary bonuses?

[multiplural] 04/8/2014 10:54

Interesting read:

[m.t.glass] 01/8/2014 23:23

Don Ahern to speak in Germany

[johnga] 30/7/2014 15:16

Multiplural, you give the impression of 'knowing' a great deal! The 'guy' you knew who bought 750k was possibly merely the 'guy' or 'gal' who bought 750k on the secondary LSE market, a trade you happened to notice and nothing more. You knew no 'guy' at all and why would you randomly know anyone who buys Tanfield shares?

It was quite possibly a worked trade or a broker balancing his books. If you look back at the secondary market you'll likely find buys and sells are now roughly balanced. Why wouldn't a real trade of 750k appear on SETS?

Throughout all your posts you have given the impression you know 'more' than almost everyone. Yet! You are rarely right! Vis-a-vis FCCN above plus the many more I've mentioned that you never seemed willing to acknowledge.

Going back to FCCN! What went wrong? You were so certain it was 'a bargain seldom seen'. I only press you because those who have to appear 'in the know' about all stocks rarely are. The discussion boards are littered with imperious posters who can never be seen to be wrong, detest being challenged, then suddenly at some point they log out never to be heard of again!

[cool_hand] 30/7/2014 11:10

I saw them.

[multiplural] 30/7/2014 11:08

My problem was exactly that I did not see the trade although I knew a guy who bought 750k that day. I therefore asked why one can trade and only see the trades later or not at all.

[johnga] 30/7/2014 10:14

tallden

Cheers, I don't follow those secondary trades, just SETS. No mention on there.

[tallden] 30/7/2014 09:57

Johnga maybe he meant this trade.

25-Jul-14 16:31:42 18.58 750,000Buy* 18.00. 18.75 92.94k

[johnga] 30/7/2014 09:11

It's now Wednesday and multiplural's assurance that he saw 'at least 750k traded' seems illusory. Sells outweighed buys yesterday to the tune of 75% to 25% on volume of 221, 238. Nothing thus far today.

Multiplural, where and how did you see these trades? Don't respond in your usual silly 'mind your own business' when challenged. It becomes my business when you post what you claim to be a fact and it's simply another of your ramps, trying to con and encourage naive investors to buy in your hope of digging you out of your doo-doo with their money.

Presumably those investors would be summarily dumped and not give a second thought if you should ever get back to whatever is your break even and you sell out.

So! Where did you see 750k traded?

[johnga] 28/7/2014 14:54

Look at all those 18.75 trades! Erm I think I see them!



No trades at all! Not a single one....not even an itsy bitsy trade. And he's seen all those large trades done?! Unless it's my glasses!

Here's another of multiplural's gems that didn't quite work out the way he guaranteed at the time:

'The French Connection Thread - FCCN
multiplural - 07 Dec 2007 - 10:21:36 - 148 of 426
finkie, you actually only pay 35M£ for FCCN. They have a markeyt cap of 85M and 50-55M in cash. With no debt the enterprice value is around 30-35M. This is for a co with 235M turnover in a market where the right management could make 25M profit on this. It's a bargain seldom seen.'

A 'bargain seldom seen' eh?! share price then? 108p. Today 57p after 18p! Lol!

[multiplural] 25/7/2014 21:13

Well they only showed 250k at the close. I know at least 750k was traded. Anyway what surprises me most is that they don't show the trades when they are executed, but only after the close. Why is that?

[johnga] 25/7/2014 16:37

Yet more misleading 'information' from multiplural...

...no large 18.75 trades early or late...

...just ramp!