Strat Aero Share Discussion Threads

[maverick247] 19/1/2017 15:33

Its a small punt andy on a turn-around simply that - in the gambling part of my pf!

[the stigologist] 19/1/2017 15:33

OneDayRodders - 07 Jan 2016 - 10:05:13 - 753 of 3664

Strat Aero - droning on..... - AERO

alas .. Mr 260k sale at 5.08p has set the tone for today

[onedayrodders] 19/1/2017 15:31

Didn't you predict something like that at PHE recently

;o)

[the stigologist] 19/1/2017 15:29

0.1p rescue rights issue or bust

[andy] 19/1/2017 15:07

maverick,

And the other small area of concern may be that the 11% holding in the company seems to be selling down his holding as fast as he can!

And the excuse given in the RNS beggars belief.

As I say i wish you luck, I feel you're going to need it..................

[andy] 19/1/2017 14:55

maverick,

It's the accounts you need to look at, particularly the cashburn.

In November they couldn't complete a placing so took an expensive loan, to tide them over, due mid February. Check out the interest!

So, if they can raise £500,00 (and I think that is a huge ask personally), and pay around 10% in costs, fees,and commissions, that leaves around £450,000, minus the loan plus interest of around £350,000, so only £100K will remain.

Then check the burn rate!

The other option is a corporate event such as the sale of Geocurve,but if that goes, so does your £2,500,000 "contract"!

They look to be in an extremely difficult place right now in my opinion.

How do you see them raising the money to keep going forward?

[andy] 19/1/2017 14:49

Kemche,

Yes I forgot about the package of services, it must be OK then! :-)

[pottermagic2310] 19/1/2017 14:25

Geocurve is believable, absolutely, 100%... but it's a minnow with just a few niche Customers and will only ever self-sustain itself.
AK seemed to have something of value to contribute in terms of Tech & back-Office Systems, along with potential, additional Customers... but it doesn't seem to have benefited SA more broadly, as hoped for... and we all know about HS and his concerns with the Parent (SA).
SA's grand vision is a good one too... but they've really messed-up big time and have been running the overall Group on a lot of hot-air. They potentially run out of funding for the Group (again) in just 4 weeks and this time could be catastrophic.

[maverick247] 19/1/2017 14:10

Fair points andy but i believe in the business itself despite the debacle of that company strat got involved with.

[kemche] 19/1/2017 14:07

Andy,
But doesn't he know that it is all integrated as we move towards package of services etc etc.........

[pottermagic2310] 19/1/2017 13:51

He's dumped 48.5% of his holding - he's cashing in whatever he can before it's worthless. That's 5% of SA's shares off-loaded in one tranche.
The Maverick clearly doesn't know a thing about "that" Contract, how much was already earned out of it before it was announced, that a chunk of the value in it was over a relatively short term and the remaining potential 6.5 years was worth just a few Bob each year.
Fill your Boots chancers, the only way is.... ????
;-)

[andy] 19/1/2017 13:21

Kemche,

Edit,

TW has confirmed that the reason given in the RNS yesterday is correct, so I have edited my post to reflect that.


He's selling before the placing either goes through at a discount and knocks the price, or fails, in my honest opinion.

When he last announced no further intention to sell, I though that was rubbish, because if I were him and with a large holding and an (almost certain) discounted placing looming, I would have continued to sell as well! As quick as possible.

They are doing well to disguise his sales, price is holding up very well considering the amount already sold, although I guess over 20 days they are able to place them without causing waves.

[kemche] 19/1/2017 13:06

Aero Kinetics Holdings
has been advised that:
(1) Aero Kinetics Holdings'
Broker will no longer
represent any US Corporations,
and (2) that as of
January 24th, 2017,
Aero Kinetics Holdings
would effectively have
no ability to manage
its shareholdings in
Strat Aero plc in either
the near or long term
as our brokers have
provided no other viable
alternatives to date.
As such Aero Kinetics
Holdings was left with
no choice but to sell
down its share position
against our intentions
and to, we believe,
our significant detriment
to mitigate potential
damages under law.
As of the close of
business on January
18th, 2017, the broker
has agreed to hold
the account open until
the first week of February,
an extension from the
prior account closure
date of January 24th,
2017.

[andy] 19/1/2017 13:06

maverick,

The recent contract you refer to is not for £2.5 million, it has the potential to eventually be worth £2.5 million, over a period of 10 years, or roughly £250,000 per annum.

"that idiot" has called this one correctly thus far, although I disagree with him on other stocks.

Funding is clearly an issue here, and they have a loan to pay back soon, (£300,000 plus interest) so, say they raise £500,000 before costs, there won't be too much remaining after loan payback.

And if they can raise it, at what price can they raise it?

"risky" it most certainly is, good luck to you.

[maverick247] 19/1/2017 12:19

I dont listen to that idiot lolBought some earlier, mcap sub 1m now and obvious funding risk but recent 2.5m contract leads me to believe they can secure this.Risky play of course Dyor as always

[andy] 16/1/2017 16:12

ByG Dennis,

You have not answered this question:

Are you an officer, director, or insider for Strat AERO?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

[bygdennis] 16/1/2017 15:55

Andy, Did you read my last post? Does it tell of licences, Package of services and gains, Potential? There's much more to Aero than i post about, Why don't you take a look for yourself?
Why keep asking me question's when the answers are already in previous posts, Granted, I could tell you anything, you make up your comments out of a few observations mostly made up in your group, It would be better you read up yourself to find out what Aero have, What they do with it and how it's used, Quite a bit to take in so, to much bother for you i suppose.
Telling us as you have, your only reason to post your views is your understanding of old accounts, they are now 9 months out of date so how and where do you get your current information from?
You make things up between you possibly hoping I might give you a few pointers, It hasn't and will not happen, If you can't be bothered to read up to check if what i post is right or not is your mistake and is misleading to others who may follow your dismal posts.
The best thing for you maybe is wait for updates, This way you will, if you read them properly, keep you up to date with things, This way you will have no reason to ask the same questions over and over, mostly about what your group comes up with which is mostly old worn out news or irrelevant.
If not, what in your posts do you consider current and relevant that is not already obvious.

[andy] 16/1/2017 11:49

Pilotov,

I see this share as a drone whose battery has gone flat in mid flight, and is now heading down towards the earth at a great rate of knots!

I cannot believe they will be able to raise a large sum of money for this company, even from the boiler room brokers, even at a heavy discount, especially after the last placing when they said they had a strong court case, and then folded!

This was done by the "new" management team Dennis so affectionately refers to!

[andy] 16/1/2017 11:43

BYGdennis,

"the progress made since that you ignore at your convenience."


I ask you again, are you a director, officer, or insider for Start Aero?

Because the "progress" you refer to is not apparent from the news releases issued by the company, I wonder how you can refer to "progress made" when the company itself does not?

Please answer the question are you a director or insider of Strat AERO?

[pilotov] 16/1/2017 11:34

Dennis, this is not a "DIP" as you say! This share has been rock bottom for at least 9 months despite your "new management", "excellent package of services" and "much progress". This share is like a drone with a flat battery - it just can't get off the ground, it's just bouncing along the bottom. Even your puffing and blowing isn't enough to get it airborne....

[the stigologist] 16/1/2017 11:23

sorry not small

tiny and almost totally insignificant

[bygdennis] 16/1/2017 11:17

But stig, Aren't you giving a false impression? Aero are no small player are they? They've made good gains with big business and government, University training programmes, Etc: You're not reading everything are you?
Training underway, Licences and a package of services that could bring many contracts, Not just one or two as your group tries to give a poor appraisal to the potential that is enormous in reality given this is as you say, fast moving market. Worth billions over the next few years you chose not to say.
Good though you are now contradicting each other and even yourselves, Only a matter of time before we get more results coming in, wouldn't you say?

[the stigologist] 16/1/2017 10:37

AERO is not ahead of it's time. It's a small player in a fast moving market with little barriers to entry/exit. They have demonstrated their cluelessness about tech/people with the embarrassing failure of the AK transaction.

[bygdennis] 16/1/2017 10:30

Andy! Same old stuff as a pattern in negative posts from group archives becomes clearer?, All that changes are the ID's who say the same things on dips, I suppose to keep your relentless hostile views less stagnant but hardly original.
If you didn't know andy the management has been changed and most of what you post is prior to the progress made since that you ignore at your convenience.
Some of what you say is interesting!
Again you imply Aero are ahead of it's time and the rewards from this technology are not to far away, Are you're saying if shareholders can be kept at a minimum, going private could be very lucrative for those maintaining an interest as gains would make this a real bargain in future for those who stay in?
Others probably read everything and keep up?, Maybe not, but your hints are noted and we'll see what updates bring.