Sports Direct Share Discussion Threads

[sentimentrules] 06/8/2019 13:04

In fairness you guys are going to be a much sharper tool in the box than me on company specifics. I trade 1000's of shares... well look for value in them anyway. And monitor global sectors. Haven't time to be a company expert.

But as far as money goes, this one is top of many a credible hit list for the rest of the year.

And therein is the dilemma. Whatever you think, fighting the money is a bad idea. I love to short more than any. I think a short here is a 90% risk compared to buy on current flows. Sure will be volatile though lol

[robot ic1] 06/8/2019 12:23

Mike Ashley is the man with a plan.

[sentimentrules] 06/8/2019 12:20

Since 1999 more than half of the ftse companies listed then, fell off the index to 2015. Then you always have the likes of Lloyds down circa 85% since 1999 etc. BT and Vodafone were truly massive back then.

11 banks on the index 1999. 5 now.

That's ceo management for you in context.

MA ain't doing a bad job

[sentimentrules] 06/8/2019 12:07

100 of em on the ftse 100

[fenners66] 06/8/2019 12:06

Show me a CEO who started to believe in his own infallibility and then you will see more mistakes

[sentimentrules] 06/8/2019 12:02

Can't win em all. He had a few errors before he made it to a multi billion pound empire too.

Show me a company without bad decisions...

[fenners66] 06/8/2019 12:01

Yeah , he had a bigger plan with his £100m investment in Debs too I suppose ?

[sentimentrules] 06/8/2019 11:54

This is really not about today. None of it is. There is a bigger plan.

He may need to change some management, but MA can be nothing only astute. No daddy's money. No anything. Got there himself.

That's more than most ceos ever did.

Man has a plan.. .

[monte1] 06/8/2019 11:52

.... and, who knows, preppies may come back into fashion again at some point (far) in the future?

[pj0077] 06/8/2019 11:50

Effortless CoolioYou appear to be looking backwards, but the market looks forwards. Leases will have been renegotiated, central costs will be stripped out, profitability restored. Mr Market agrees with me & has increased the market cap of SPD by GBP23million this morning. A great return on a GBP12.7million outlay.

[debsdowner] 06/8/2019 11:38

itcm1

Yes

[sentimentrules] 06/8/2019 11:30

Ltcm... Jack SP

Lord knows what 2020 brings. But only MA will get the Xmas run

[sentimentrules] 06/8/2019 11:25

One thing i always found in markets. Opinions and perceptions never outweighted money positioned.

Its why what seems irrational, wasn't. The money was there all along.

To some it's irrational this isn't 180 or 160 post report. Not irrational at all

[sentimentrules] 06/8/2019 11:21

Doesn't really matter what our individual perceptions are though does it? As long as the market likes it and we are on the right side of that.

[debsdowner] 06/8/2019 11:20

Mike Ashley should have bought Karen Millen and Coast for his House of Fraser stores instead of Jack Wills:



Bad move imo.

[debsdowner] 06/8/2019 11:15

Effortless Cool
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PJ0077 re 66784,

"Gross assets is a meaningless metric on its own. In its last published accounts, Jack Wills had net assets of £192k, i.e. effectively was worth zero.

The £19.2m profit is arrived at after crediting a spectacular £34.4m of exceptionals related to wiping out an intercompany debt. The true underlying result was a loss of £15.2m.

Further, the figures given relate to the results to end-January 2018, i.e. are more than a year out of date. Since Jack Wills has gone into administration since they were published, things have clearly got worse, not better.

In summary, SPD have added another complete basket case to their portfolio. It would be interesting to understand why you consider this acquisition for £12.75m to be "a sound piece of business".

effortless,

Spot on mate its good to read some proper research.

The business not so good when you remove the wheat from the chaff you are left with chaff!

[sentimentrules] 06/8/2019 10:37

Have a feeling you did well anyway ignoble. Something a bit different about you, which in my book is always a great thing.

[ignoble] 06/8/2019 10:11

Aye
He does appear to have some enormous cash flow he can utilise.
As the gentleman above commented, in a few years MA could look like a genius if it all turns around in his favour.

Otherwise, it could be very tough
Only time will tell..

At least he is prepared to have a go..
Wish I had his nerve

Fortunately, I am too old to need the hassle.

[sentimentrules] 06/8/2019 10:03

You mentioned Newcastle Utd purchases too etc Ignoble. An interesting direction your pointing

[sentimentrules] 06/8/2019 09:58

SPD are in essence, doing what we all do. Most smart investing is done in times of recession. Their sector has that and more. If your ever going to expand, great time to begin.

They have made some errors but on the whole , what looks crazy now may indeed look like pure genius in 5 years time.

That one is for the mystics

[ignoble] 06/8/2019 09:56

As a humble observer, it never ceases to amaze me that MA appears to have an endless supply of millions...

None of my business, I suppose

[effortless cool] 06/8/2019 09:44

PJ0077 re 66784,

Gross assets is a meaningless metric on its own. In its last published accounts, Jack Wills had net assets of £192k, i.e. effectively was worth zero.

The £19.2m profit is arrived at after crediting a spectacular £34.4m of exceptionals related to wiping out an intercompany debt. The true underlying result was a loss of £15.2m.

Further, the figures given relate to the results to end-January 2018, i.e. are more than a year out of date. Since Jack Wills has gone into administration since they were published, things have clearly got worse, not better.

In summary, SPD have added another complete basket case to their portfolio. It would be interesting to understand why you consider this acquisition for £12.75m to be "a sound piece of business".

[sentimentrules] 06/8/2019 09:13

Not a bad day 3 start given the market context. Market likes the deal. Hopefully gets reflected in share price fully by next week