Scancell Share Discussion Threads

[inanaco] 24/8/2017 16:52

LOL

you just get worse ....

if you have any money at all ?

Loz ... declare your own trades.

[the real lozan] 24/8/2017 16:49

Just to put things into perspctive -
This morning, I and other REALISTS posted about a 'retrace' ... TEA LEAF did NOT
I and other REALISTS congratulated those posters who HAD realised PROFITS... Again TEA LEAF did NOT
I have always advised folks to 'act on their own initiative' assuming folks are able and intelligent enough to do so... TEA LEAF does NOT
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ONCE AGAIN, my posting regarding 'a retrace' was / has ...been PROVEN to be SOUND
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Again = WELL DONE those who secured PROFITS.... TEA LEAF did NOT

[inanaco] 24/8/2017 16:43

any way ... he has taken the Vet with him, just in case the cat turns nasty

[gazza] 24/8/2017 16:43

I think he was trying to return the 3 bmws he bought yesterday

[inanaco] 24/8/2017 16:42

Terror

maybe he took some profit and took a trip to France to view Loz Towers

[terror] 24/8/2017 16:39

Anyone seen GF123 since it started dropping?

[inanaco] 24/8/2017 16:23

Loz, do you have the latest Enigma code, need to change the wheel settings ...

[inanaco] 24/8/2017 16:19

so in effect you created a false market of the share going down, because you have not declared the buys ..

[inanaco] 24/8/2017 16:18

Market Makers obviously have a degree of risk. If there is a flood of sellers, because the Market Maker's job is to provide liquidity, he has to buy those shares even though the rest of the market may want to sell. If the price continues to fall he could be left with a lot of stock on his hands that he paid considerably higher prices for than he can sell for now. And vice versa - if a share is rising sharply the Market Maker has to continue selling the stock to the buyers -

he could end up "short" of stock. In this situation he has sold stock he has not got, to fulfill all the buy requests, and he has to buy this stock in to balance his books, but at higher prices and makes a loss

in this instance big buys reported after the selling ......

[inanaco] 24/8/2017 16:15

Loz wakes up with a thick head, have a coffee mate, get it cleared

you seem to think every post has a hidden meaning ........ C7 post's got removed because he posted them, and admin saw fit to remove... he cannot now blame others for his mistakes, and given the fact that he always has been the reporter of posts ...

seems some want to influence the rules and be above them

[terror] 24/8/2017 16:08

nana - Don't have time to read that, what's the succinct point?

[inanaco] 24/8/2017 15:54

Terror its more a game of trying to see behind beyond the curtain, for sure MM ran short of stock hence the late big declared trades.

A Background to the Market and Market Makers

A Market Maker runs a 'shop' and you buy shares from him or sell them back to him.

The Market Makers act as retailers of shares and display their prices during working hours. The prices may vary (sometimes considerably) during the day, depending on a number of influences. For example, if holders of very large amounts of a share decide to sell (or a combination of a lot of holders of small amounts), then the Market Makers will reduce the price that they are prepared to pay for the share. The converse is true also; if there is a consistent and large enough demand for a share, then the Market Makers will increase the price. Market Makers make money from buying shares at a lower price to which they sell them. This is the bid/offer spread. The more actively a share is traded the more money a Market Maker makes.

It is often felt that the Market Makers manipulate the prices. "Market Manipulation" is an emotive term, and conjurers images of shady deals and exploitation. Market Makers are not elusive companies that appear then vanish overnight. Market Makers are duty bound to make a market and to meet the needs of those they are responsible, to this end they may try to influence the market.

Market Makers are however known to lower prices to "panic" investors into selling, sometimes called "shaking the tree"? Moving the price up, encourages sells, moving it down also encourage sell, hence also the term dead cat bounce when a Market Maker will mark a falling stock up to encourage buyers in thinking they have reached the bottom.

A good pricing system such as Level 2 will give you an indication which Market Makers are keenly priced. Your broker using the same systems as you now have can sometimes get a better price than those on the screen. This is because Market Makers compete with one another for business. When your broker calls the Market Maker he is giving them the opportunity to 'bid' for the business, the Market Maker may well improve on the price on offer via the screens. The Market Maker only makes money when they are buying and selling, so the Market Maker will prefer to see the business go through their books at a reduce margin than allow it to go to another Market Maker.

When you buy and sell shares in most circumstances (SEAQ/AIM) your broker has to go through a Market Maker. The Market Maker works for an institution that makes a market (will buy and sell) that particular stock. They provide the market with liquidity - i.e. there will always be a price you can sell your stock at, there will always be a price you can buy some stock at (unless the share is suspended).

Market Makers obviously have a degree of risk. If there is a flood of sellers, because the Market Maker's job is to provide liquidity, he has to buy those shares even though the rest of the market may want to sell. If the price continues to fall he could be left with a lot of stock on his hands that he paid considerably higher prices for than he can sell for now. And vice versa - if a share is rising sharply the Market Maker has to continue selling the stock to the buyers - he could end up "short" of stock. In this situation he has sold stock he has not got, to fulfill all the buy requests, and he has to buy this stock in to balance his books, but at higher prices and makes a loss.

The Market Makers are effectively in competition with each other. With the example of IMG above, why would a seller want to sell shares to UBSW at 380, when the seller can deal with MLSB or AITK and receive 385p per shares? If UBSW wants to purchase shares, the Market Maker has to raise its bid price. If Market Makers want to buy shares because they may think the stock is heading up or they are short of stock they have to raise their bid price if theirs is not the best bid on the screen. This can cause the spread to narrow. If Market Makers are keen to sell stock they may want to lower their offer price to tempt buyers in. If all Market Makers start moving their offer prices lower to tempt in buyers and offload stock, certain traders could view this as negative for the short term. If Market Makers need or want to take in more stock they will raise their bid prices - certain traders again could see this as a sign of a short-term upswing in prices.

If a Market Maker does not want to trade in the stock he is making a market in he may make his bid/ask spread so wide to discourage anyone to trade with him. If all the Market Makers do this the stock can become illiquid temporarily as no trades are going through - buyers do not want to buy, sellers do not want to sell their stock at what they envisage is a poor bid price.

[terror] 24/8/2017 15:26

Pump and Dump part two underway

[inanaco] 24/8/2017 13:06

you missed the point loz ,, you need sleep

[the real lozan] 24/8/2017 12:52

IS YOUR poster name = goosed ???

[the real lozan] 24/8/2017 12:34

Elsie slips back into trHYPER 'glovepuppet' mode - with =
" Fair to say news is coming."
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So is CHRISTMAS
except, for those who PREFER to deal in FACTS... *WE* KNOW CHRISTMAS is COMING... And WHEN
NOT the case with SCLP 'NEWS' ...is it ???

[wigwammer] 24/8/2017 12:31

"i feel for you and others like you"My entry price here is 10.5p with the posts to prove it.Tosh - it is sad but you evidently make things up, and posters should bear this in mind when reading your posts.

[the real lozan] 24/8/2017 12:26

Just as a matter of interest - Does anyone { other than myself } KNOw the 'origins' of the word used in English = 'FEISTY " ???