well as Ruck has stated I do have 9 processor's running
which is better than your single 386sx in sleep mode Ivy |
As you say Ruck.His Crown is safe.
Must be a big Crown as he has a very big head. |
well ruck .... at least i do read your posts ... and you get a response
who else responds to you ? 🤗
ATB |
so if you mimic the infection
or
you have the infection
the immune system will respond
to generate memory |
Inan, "SC102 has to be the most objectionable poster ever"No, I think your crown is safe. No one else comes close. |
you will argue that is Scancells admission Document
well scancell never planned for Covid back then ..... and its easier to describe to the market in the most simplistic terms, because we are Cancer specialists
but at the end of the day ... its all about One immune system that automatically generates Memory
ATB |
the most effective vaccine for the Flu ............. is the Flu
most people with un-compromised immune systems will never have that particular Strain again !!
Chicken Pox maybe has to wait 30 years for your immune system to get a bit tired !!
LOL |
one other point
most prophylactic vaccines
"mimic" the infection
you are generating "memory" effectively to the infection which is a "mimic"
your immune system is effectively fighting the "mimic"
you have the disease but its a "Mimic"
"""that stimulate an immune response prior to exposure to the disease""" |
but pleased read your own HISTORY ....
""""There are two types of vaccines, namely prophylactic vaccines (that stimulate an immune response prior to exposure to the disease and thereby prevent the pathology associated with the disease) and therapeutic vaccines (which stimulate an immune response to reject an established disease)."""""""""
in the light of the evidence i have presented is this statement by you Correct
both vaccines do the job ..... one result "memory"
as I have explained that is a automatic process carried out by the immune system without interference |
Inanaco,
On what planet does my post contradict Sci102's? |
anyway GSK and Oxford are probably 15 years from discovery ....
and then they will discover Moditope 🤣
then do a patent search ...
Ouch ! |
and they are not exactly the same ...
therapeutics need a more potent vaccine
and you can't use a weakened cancer cell against cancer it will not be seen
along with the cancer which is also not seen, ""masked"" to the immune system
hence its called the "escape phase" |
Not according to Bermuda mate .....
which is what started the debate in the first place .....
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Looks like they're researching prophylactic cancer vaccines so a different area from Scancell who are developing therapeutic vacccines. Nevertheless good to see big pharma investing in cancer vaccines in any form as well as UK big pharma supporting UK R&D. |
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""Enough of this nonsense. The underlying mechanisms between prophylactic and therapeutic are exactly the same.""
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Enough of this nonsense. The underlying mechanisms between prophylactic and therapeutic are exactly the same. However, the clinical development path is very different. What we care about (commercialisation) has to do with the development path, not the mechanism of action. The difference between healthy individuals and terminal illness patients is the difference between night and day. |
Enough of this nonsense. The underlying mechanisms between prophylactic and therapeutic are exactly the same. However, the clinical development path is very different. What we care about (commercialisation) has to do with the development path, not the mechanism of action. The difference between healthy individuals and terminal illness patients is the difference between night and day. |
you cannot build a vaccine directed at memory .... why ?
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Yes, T cell memory generation is considered to be an automatic process, meaning that when a naive T cell encounters an antigen (a foreign substance) and becomes activated, it naturally differentiates into memory T cells as part of its normal immune response, allowing for a quicker and stronger response if the same antigen is encountered again in the future; this happens without any conscious control from the body. |
the only difference is the cancer is a far harder target because of the TME and weak antigens so the cancer fights back
in a virus
It doesn't .....
so if you use a cancer vaccine against a virus
its very powerful because the T cells are more potent |
"""I know there is only one immune system but there are differences between a therapeutic and prophylactic and between oncology and infectious diseases.""""
So what is it ...........
you waffle on but we have seen NO EVIDENCE
how is
Immunobody Covidity = High avidity t cells against the Virus
different to
ISCIB1 = High Avidity t cells against the cancer |
now you may consider me arrogant Ivy ... but i cannot protect you from you own ignorance
its impossible |
I know there is only one immune system but there are differences between a therapeutic and prophylactic and between oncology and infectious diseases.
I have always specified the particular platform purpose and indication but you seem unable to grasp that basic concept.Now we you see why many struggle with hiw your mind works. |
now the big difference with Scancell is this
the MRNA vaccine generates "copies" of the viral particles that get picked up by the Dendritic cells
live- attenuated vaccine same
that requires and innate response leading to an adaptive response
Scancell transfects directly into the Dendritic cells the instructions straight to adaptive response
no garbage floating around your body causing Blood Clots (AZN)
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mRNA vaccines for COVID-19 are currently the only authorized mRNA vaccines in the United States. These vaccines teach cells to produce the spike protein, which is found on the outside of the coronavirus. |
Immunobody is a therapeutic oncology platform and a prophylactic Infectious disease platform that is my view.
there is NO difference
you only have ONE IMMUNE SYSTEM
its the loading of the epitopes that direct the T cells
you can load with a B cell antigen = antibodies
you can load with Viral antigen for T cells CD4 and CD8
You can load with cancer antigens for t cells CD4 CD8
and until YOU accept there is only one Immune system
you will be for ever bogged down in these tedious debates
Immunobody is a delivery system to ONE immune system |
Here are the definitions of these two terms so we are all on the same page: Arrogance is defined as behaving as if you are more important than, or know more than, other people. Ignorance is defined as a lack of knowledge or information.
the question you have to ask "am I arrogant"
because people post without reading my posts or understanding exactly what the meaning is
They then try to put me down with Ignorance .... because i am able to post on topic
they then make me appear Arrogant ... using there ignorance as if they are important
take your time to read that .... |
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