Rolls-royce Share Discussion Threads

[institutional investments] 18/2/2024 10:43

Everything I have read to-date, concurs. .

You won't beat advfn forums for financial advice

[vlad the impaler] 18/2/2024 10:42

You don't understand Mingy. They are all much smarter than the institutions/funds , on advfn

[ming da merciless] 18/2/2024 10:40

I am very disappointed with the threads on RR. Not a mention of a sell adjustment pre results bar 1 I think. Very unprofessional

[ming da merciless] 18/2/2024 10:38

Needed an upgrade to stop sellers pre results 😂

[smurfy2001] 18/2/2024 10:36

Happy to remain invested.

[ming da merciless] 18/2/2024 10:33

Berenberg stepped out of line really. All that shouldn't commence imo until post results and sub IIs 292

I guess their clients have commenced short building early, not caring about results

[ming da merciless] 18/2/2024 10:30

I think if RR rises prior to result, they will pull the trigger prior. But I don't know

These are just built CFD big contracts for potential execution. Not market baring. . I do think it would be representative of the shorting loan market though. Often is the case anyway

[eeza] 18/2/2024 10:27

Also in the Times from 13 Feb

[ming da merciless] 18/2/2024 10:26

I have looked at a few 'smart boy' shorting baskets. For the UK, only 3 FTSE shares are in all of their baskets. RR is one. Not executed baskets yet though. Most likely hoping a couple of results get good reaction ...then it's all out war regardless

[ming da merciless] 18/2/2024 10:23

Next couple of days will call results. If it doesn't drop by Tuesday close, a target variable has not being met in obvious pre open accounting terms

If drops a bit , I think holders can spin the coin for a 350s/370s exit. Shorters take over from there anyway .

[institutional investments] 18/2/2024 10:12

Mingy must be sober. Be calling a "hold to 800p' next week

[skinny] 18/2/2024 10:11

A mention in this Times article :-

[ming da merciless] 18/2/2024 09:35

Very high expectations set by market, into results. To be immediately priced in on the day shall be macro outlook and crashing markets.

I am not impressed with the current CEO work. He has simply done as past CEOs have - to try report a profit of note, for his first year.

Sold assets - culled jobs - cut costs

Markets interest will not be the reported profit at all per se . It shall be the operational sales net margins , in which the rise is wholly built upon - those targets set.

SMR expected sales had a massive setback v projections recently. And same for the projected massive increase for net margins on engine service contracts (Client reactions , lack of margin data on desks etc )

It is also of note, those forecasts back then were based upon continuing strong markets, and consumer spend/credit trends, as it was since 2009

RR may be able to report expected financial numbers next week, as the CEO knows he will be judged upon said, and doing all sorts of 'accounting ' to try achieve it. In market terms he needs to. It's all downhill broadly after this .

However, that won't be good enough for the city

Meet expectations , Beat expectations,.fall below expectations ...

It won't matter by the end of day after results.

The historic RR norm shall continue post a CEO honeymoon period , and markets will compound it

The city will see it as spare cash created to burn again, or a true turnaround in RR?

The former is the suggestion .

Any words of bringing yield back would surely set share price back on course to sub 100p , given debt and future macro conditions. This is not something investors want to see mentioned.

The city would need to see a new increasing history of yield. The financials to continually match , and be of a value that beats safe income. (Basket case scenario now interest rates are normalising )

Yield reintroduced would only add to capital diminishing returns

I would suggest, any yield introduced, would simply be for the true bosses, main holders, to achieve a better net sell off average . But that's a double edged sword now and would be a grave error on their part. At best, mention it as a future possibility for retail sentiment, to sell in to.

To conclude, RR had the best CEO honeymoon period in recent decades.

Once these financials are released, the CEO can most likely blame markets, to his last day in the job.

Official short interest.....

I suspect this has commenced prior to results. With a market reaction outlook of 1. Open down 15% minimum or 2. The more likely initial up reaction which would be 350s to 370s , and they will continue build there, foreseeing no further rises.

They truly have all the external cover they require now for the long term re broad markets, RR market history..
Historic aviation cycles , an extreme SP
and imo, failed margin targets, beyond the headline numbers , which will take a few hours to be digested

Summary

No hold value in RR post financials day reaction , wherever that day high/low may be.

And given the rise percentage up to that date, the risk of not meeting expectation v a viewed time limit/price on good market reaction , current holders are leaving a huge exposure on the table for just one forecasted variable to be 'obviously' not met, pre open

[vikingwarrier] 18/2/2024 09:35

For once a bit of global warming that's good for shareholders.

“Rolls-Royce has gone from being a ‘burning platform,to the hottest stock in the FTSE 100,”

[freddie01] 18/2/2024 07:14

Rolls-Royce eyes £1.4bn profit as turnaround continues. But could the long lost dividend return?


Rolls-Royce investors will get a clear picture of the company’s turnaround under new chief Tufan Erginbilgiç when the engineering giant reports its full-year results on Thursday.

Analysts are forecasting an underlying operating profit of between £1bn and £1.4bn after Erginbilgiç raised expectations in July.

There is also growing speculation that Rolls-Royce could return to the dividend list after a four-year post-pandemic absence.

Investors have been impressed by the new boss’s no-nonsense cost-cutting approach, as he looks to trim debts and improve profits, and both metrics will be in the spotlight next week.

Increased demand for its jet engines and a boom in military spending globally have also been key to its success over the last year.

Shares topped the FTSE 100 last year and it was the only stock in the UK’s headline index to have more than doubled over the past 12 months.

But the City will need clarity that 2023’s remarkable turnaround will continue into 2024. Analysts are looking for hefty increases in both underlying operating profit and free cash flow, to £1.7bn and £1.6bn.

By 2027, Rolls-Royce is aiming for £2.5bn to £2.8bn in underlying profit and free cash flow of £2.8bn to £3.1bn.

“Rolls-Royce has gone from being a ‘burning platform,’ to use the words of chief executive Tufan Erginbilgiç, to the hottest stock in the FTSE 100,” Russ Mould, investment director at AJ Bell, said.

“That gain is partly attributable to the no-nonsense self-help programme launched by Erginbilgiç since his arrival in January 2023, partly to the rebound in international travel and air traffic after the end of lockdowns, partly to the return to favour of defence-related companies and partly down to investors’ enthusiasm for the medium-term financial targets for 2027 laid down by the new boss at a meeting last November.”

On Thursday’s results, he added: “Investors will also look for further reductions in net debt, helped by that free cash flow but also the planned £1bn to £1.5bn disposal programme, and be on the look-out for any updates on both Rolls-Royce’s plans for its small modular nuclear reactors and the XWB97 jet engine, which attracted criticism from Emirates when the airline explained why it had not bought any Airbus A350-1000 aircraft.”

[institutional investments] 17/2/2024 13:53

Thanatos Abyss17 Feb '24 - 13:01 - 33516 of 33519
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You seem very dim. Is that why so angry ?

....
Last few posts were both angry and dim

Are you sure ?

[thanatos abyss] 17/2/2024 13:01

You seem very dim. Is that why so angry ?