Redt Energy Share Discussion Threads

[aim_wide] 08/12/2017 11:19

The tech is proven, so can we now focus on the market, competition, sales, profits please ? As an investor, there are plenty of grounds for optimism, and plenty of risks, and I support Owenski in trying to keep this forum properly focussed on these(and find it most frutstrating when people resort to personal attacks in response ). Unevidenced speculative posting in either direction, are just diluting this focus.

[aim_wide] 08/12/2017 11:18

The tech is proven, so can we now focus on the market, competition, sales, profits please ? As an investor, there are plenty of grounds for optimism, and plenty of risks, and I support Owenski in trying to keep this forum properly focussed on these(and find it most frutstrating when people resort to personal attacks in response ). Unevidenced speculative posting in either direction, are just diluting this focus.

[cheek212] 08/12/2017 09:44

Dlg - I know but have asked Owenski three times now over the past few weeks to prove his statements but he can't! Just goes quiet! Typical deramper.

[dlg3] 08/12/2017 09:28

This was confirmed to me by Joe Worthington about a month ago...

[dlg3] 08/12/2017 09:27

Cheek212 they are making a small profit on Gen2 products, but the orders are for Gen3 where they make between 15 and 25%...

[orbital_p] 08/12/2017 09:08

At least there are people with confidence to buy, even though we are in this depressing downward trend. Never thought we'd be back at these lows again after the recent stream of revolutionary news.

[cheek212] 08/12/2017 08:53

Do you know that they are giving stuff away for a fact Owenski? Have you spoken to the company to confirm? Do Tesla give stuff away for free? What margin did they make on their Oz battery? Have you found out yet?

[owenski] 08/12/2017 08:48

Unfortunately, whilst RED might have a product, I'm not convinced the business model is that opaque. Might be why this is being sold down, considering there was no reaction to that recent 5 unit -bigged up as 9 - sale, it suggests the market aren't behind this.

Giving stuff away is not a business, it's a charity.

[cheek212] 08/12/2017 08:44

2 buys in a row and the MMs push the price down! A tree shake possibly?

[dlg3] 08/12/2017 02:57

dlg315 Jun '15 - 15:20 - 7513 of 8047 0 0 Edit
tully just thinking out loud.... head of vionx Doug Alderton premium power, premium power zinc bromide flow battery tech....

vionx site says UTC battery, UTC sold their UTC Power fuel cells unit to ClearEdge Power in 2013......where did vanadium redox battery spring from overnight????

UTC fund their development through universities, one of those unis is Cork Ireland...

Dr Robert Lynch ot the uni in limerick worked with REDT... he was funded by the uni of cork on a number of projects....people talk!!!

Jabil manufacture UTC,s battery???? there is zero info regarding this, google or jabils site.....strange..REDT and Vizn are there, plenty of articles..

[dlg3] 08/12/2017 02:22

Based at redT and Newcastle University you will lead a Knowledge Transfer Partnership project to develop hybrid energy storage systems for grid applications. You will engage in interdisciplinary research across the entire value chain of energy storage including design, grid integration and operation of different technologies.

Candidates with a PhD in Power Systems, Smart Grids or Power Electronics and Control are preferred. Suitable candidates with an MSc will be considered.

The position comes with benefits including a £6,000 individual training budget, excellent management training and the opportunity to undertake a Higher Degree.

You will interact with stakeholders within redT’s client base to develop expert knowledge and understanding of market needs. In addition, you will work with academics and Industry, and various Policy Makers, from within Newcastle University’s extensive links including Network Operators (e.g. NPG, UKPN), City Councils and Energy Companies (e.g. Siemens) that are operating in relevant projects.

[dlg3] 08/12/2017 02:19

with regards to the Siemens bit, take a look at REDT at Newcastle uni....one of the project partners is none other than?????

you got it Siemens !!!!

[dlg3] 08/12/2017 02:15

Anglesey's position as a clean energy hub is set to be reinforced, after planning permission was yesterday granted for a 49.9MW solar plus storage project on the Welsh island.


The project is expected to provide power for up to 15,500 UK homes a year and deliver carbon savings over its 30-year lifetime of 612,000 tonnes, the equivalent of taking nearly 14,000 cars off the road.

[dlg3] 08/12/2017 02:12

another thing about Vionx is that their website was up and running a few years back then went dormant....as though they were waiting for something or someone....then as soon as REDT started to mobilise so did Vionx...strange !!!! coincidence ????? I think not!!!!

ask dog about my thought on Vionx or ask tullynessle.....

[dlg3] 08/12/2017 02:09

Shavian you need to read my past posts on Vionx.....they have no contract with Jabil!!! but jabil are manufacturing the flow machines they sell, UTC only supplied Vionx with the X-flow membrane and nothing else.....so where did the rest of the battery come from??? now that is a mystery!!! but seeing as vionx reared its head at the same time as REDT signed with Jabil and Jabil made a rather quick adjustment to REDT,s flow machine at the time, saving 40% on cost and reducing the size by 70%, that kind of adjustment takes years...unless you have something...you getting where I am heading???

[dlg3] 08/12/2017 01:55

owenski cheap way of promoting your product and hitting the right market...take a look at your mate at Tesla, thats what he does, only they owe $10 billion and about to borrow more and still not turning a profit, remind me of the market cap of Tesla...is that $52 billion I here you say, have they made a profit yet???? bigger market cap than BMW...

Tesla delivered 22,000 vehicles in the second quarter of 2017, bringing its total deliveries for the first half of the year to 47,100. That’s the low end of its original estimate for the first half of this year.

The BMW plant in South Carolina alone produces more than Tesla...

[shavian] 07/12/2017 23:35

When looking into Vanadium compnies last night I foung that Largo Resources is developing a close link with Vionx, a US early producer of VRF machines



They seem to be at about the same development stage as RED but are backed by the giant United Technologies Corp, and have an association with Siemens. Disturbingly, their manufacturing partner is - Jabil!

I wonder if it's wise to have RED's machines built by a firm who is 'sleeping with the enemy'? However I suppose it cuts both ways and Jabil's reputation as a professional contract manufacturer should prevent any leakage or other hanky-panky.

I'll watch for progress from Vionx. Unfortuately they are not publicly quoted.

[fieldhouse] 07/12/2017 18:53

Agree littlepop.
Slowly,slowly catchee monkey !!

[cheek212] 07/12/2017 18:52

What no large after hours trade appearing today! I feel let down!

[littlepop] 07/12/2017 17:53

Interesting how the discussion on here has shifted from the technical to the financial. That is an indication of how far we have come - no-one is now questioning the value of these units on a technical level, only how profitably they can be deployed. Scott would appear to be in a better position to steer the company through the financial minefield than the technical one given his background and I am confident that RedT will get it right. The sales so far have been about building confidence and getting the name out there. This is not about selling 40 units at a massive margin and retiring, its about convincing people of their value so that everyone wants one and then working out the most profitable way to satisfy the demand.

[cheek212] 07/12/2017 17:25

Do you know that for a fact Owenski? I think I asked you the same question a few weeks ago when you popped up with your negative posts but don't recall your answer.

[owenski] 07/12/2017 16:23

40 units at next to no margin might give a clue as to why RED isn't rising when the M.cap is just short of 60m.

[alchemy] 07/12/2017 16:20

Yes. It reads like Microsoft with Windows 3.11 •, this should be higher lol......• or better

[netcurtains] 07/12/2017 14:53

certainly sounds good to me:
LONDON (Alliance News) - redT energy PLC on Tuesday said National Grid PLC has published a rating report on the company's energy storage units that showed its vanadium redox flow machines achieved the highest rating.
The report looked into the duration of energy storage units, and redT's machines can store energy for over four hours, which it said achieved "National Grid's full rating". This makes the company's flow machines comparable with pumped hydro storage, it said.
"The metrics used to define duration-limited storage in the upcoming UK capacity market auctions rate energy storage machines the highest at 96.11%," redT said. "The report's lowest rating of 17.89% goes to batteries that can only store energy for 30 minutes, effectively de-rating short-term storage technologies, such as lithium, in the upcoming auction mechanism."
The storage machines are flexible platforms which offer a full suite of services to the UK grid, such as time shifting solar generation, frequency response, short term operating reserve, and participating in the capacity market and demand turn up.
The company has already connected the largest operating, containerised vanadium redox flow machine system in the UK to the grid at The Olde House agri-business in Cornwall. This 1 megawatt hour project is able to provide grid services at full rating, time shift renewable energy and provide trading services to the customer.
"We are proud to be the first company to have deployed a fully flexible storage platform in the UK, which provides the full range of grid services and is potentially saving the customer up to 50% on grid imports during peak times. The UK market is a key of focus for us, as energy storage has become economic and we are now able to deliver attractive returns for our customers," said Chief Executive Scott McGregor.
Shares in redT were up 1.5% on Tuesday at 9.39 pence.
By Joshua Warner; [e-mail]
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