Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Provident Financial Group LSE:PFG London Ordinary Share GB00B1Z4ST84 ORD 20 8/11P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  -2.20p -0.33% 667.80p 666.80p 668.20p 669.60p 649.00p 669.00p 52,136 09:37:39
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Nonequity Investment Instruments 1,196.3 -123.0 -90.7 - 2,363.03

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19/10/2017
17:26
Can I suggest you don't post on this board, you're ruining my feng-sui and chi today 😪 I've never understood people who object to people posting negative views on boards, or posting when they don't own. Why would anyone want a "discussion" board which is just for cheerleading - how would that help anyone make good investment decisions. sippguru may be annoying (his name probably says all you need to know - imagine calling yourself a guru!), and he may even be doing so deliberately - but if the cost of not being irritated by some posters is to eliminate any alternative views then I'll have sippguru any day. Peter
greyingsurfer
19/10/2017
17:18
The loan book has shrunk by 33% or ~£150 million in the past 3 months alone - that's not collections that is a substantial impairment and writedown, which will hit the P & L. The loss for the business will be a non-cash loss but it will severely hamper future profitability and cash flow as they won't lend (understandably) to customers who have defaulted. I don't think anyone would argue that PFG hasn't made an almighty mess of things, and considerably lowered it's value as a business. However, in those last 3 months the share price is down nearly 75%. I have no real interest in where the share price has been, my interest is in where it will go from here. The bad news you mention has been priced in. The question now is will things prove to be worse than the market is currently pricing, or will they begin to get things back on track. I bought on the basis that the latter may well be true. I'm certainly not looking for PFG to get back to the health or share price they were at the start of the year, that won't happen, if ever, for years. Peter
greyingsurfer
19/10/2017
17:00
Terminated, The loan book has shrunk by 33% or ~£150 million in the past 3 months alone - that's not collections that is a substantial impairment and writedown, which will hit the P & L. The loss for the business will be a non-cash loss but it will severely hamper future profitability and cash flow as they won't lend (understandably) to customers who have defaulted. The metrics for measuring collections also needs to be looked at. If it's a measurement of the net loan book, is it actually improving (from 57% to 65%) or has collections performance remained at the depressed level, masked by the make up of the net loan book on account of the substantial impairments?
aiminvestor11
19/10/2017
16:26
I sold my holding last week making a quick 12% because the RNS didn't seem to suggest a big turnaround was on the cards, in fact it said very little and yet it jumped up. Many here are expecting it to double, and if course it might, but there is no logical reason to assume so. In fact looking back at news there is no logical justification given to report the loss they are projecting to make this year except the doorstep collecting business has encountered difficulties and this accounts for about only one third of their business. Does anyone have more details on the projected loss and exactly why it is so large?
terminated
19/10/2017
14:37
I know, need the positive drive back
cellular3
19/10/2017
14:35
Where is Glen..? Missing him already. :-)
umitw
19/10/2017
13:50
You sure? 🤒
cellular3
19/10/2017
13:48
You're assuming i was long when this tanked, i wasn't.
sippguru
19/10/2017
13:46
Does seem peculiar that if someone posts positive (if with no basis in fact) comments that's fine. If someone posts something negative they must be being paid to do so. The irony misses a lot of you eh?
sippguru
19/10/2017
13:45
Sippguru so you must have lost a bit when pfg tanked, now you want it to keep falling?
cellular3
19/10/2017
13:42
🔎 thorough research detective tradejunkie2
cellular3
19/10/2017
13:11
It's OK we can assume to know your position. We're here to help ease the pain pal. sippguru 19 Oct '17 - 12:50 - 2395 of 2397    0   0 I don't feel the need to disclose my position, sippguru - 17 Oct 2016 - 22:41:15 - 510 of 2398 PFG - PFG They don't seem to be confirming anything regarding Glo other than it being closed to new business, so no longer a pilot, just collecting the £8M loan book out. Seems a bit odd that having mentioned Glo in every update for a couple of years there is no mention at all this time and the site clearly shows closed to new business. Compounded by the last update stating they were going full steam ahead with Glo this year. As a shareholder i feel misled. I wonder what the FCA would have to say about this.
tradejunkie2
19/10/2017
13:04
If you're on here being paid to deramp then others will find you annoying
cellular3
19/10/2017
13:02
Can I suggest you don't post on this board, you're ruining my feng-sui and chi today 😪
cellular3
19/10/2017
12:50
I don't feel the need to disclose my position, but if you'd rather a general love in ignoring the state of this business can i suggest you don't read BB's. Would be a bit bloody boring if everybody was long and everybody was sat ramping the same stock. Just look at share price performance over the last 6 months, the lovers of PFG are hurting badly, those of us who read the RNS, review the company, mystery shop them, perform detailed analysis have a different view and have had a slightly better year!
sippguru
19/10/2017
12:27
russell250, when the price goes up they all disappear, -:)
umitw
19/10/2017
12:18
I want a sip of your sipp guru but there is little to sip as your glass is always half empty 🥃
cellular3
19/10/2017
11:10
Penycae, LOLIT TAKES ALL SORTS TO MAKE THE WORLD.! If I posted in a bad language it would have been more appreciated ! -:)
umitw
19/10/2017
10:34
sippguru, Woodford has got more right than wrong to be fair. If the PFG management have taken a wrong turn on a clear route how is that Woodford's fault?
smurfy2001
19/10/2017
09:49
Sippguru, I don't understand some people on this B.B. !You all are entitled to your opinion , however if you are not a holder what are you all doing here?Spreading negativity more then already in the public domain isn't a gentlemanly or clever thing todo. Some people believe that this company will pull through. If you don't so be it. But stop posting negative sentiment as if you all are the only people know everything there is to know!I rest my case!
umitw
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