Powerhouse Energy Share Discussion Threads

[blewco] 08/10/2018 19:37

I noticed that ITM Power have a contract to supply Toyota with hydrogen for their Mirai car, would be nice if they had it in mind to offer us the same.
Just a thought.

[money maker1] 08/10/2018 19:34

whatsthepoint, take a look at this:


5 June 2017
PowerHouse Energy Group Plc
PHE Collaboration Agreement of up to GBP500,000

PowerHouse Energy Group Plc (AIM: PHE), the company focused on ultra high
temperature gasification waste to energy systems, and the creation of
Distributed Modular Gasification© (DMG), is delighted to announce a
collaboration agreement with a UK partner involved in the development of energy
and waste projects.

Subject to achieving certain performance milestones of the G3-UHt demonstration
unit sited at Thornton Science Park and to entering into an option to lease
land to site the units, the partner has committed two tranches of funding of up
to GBP500,000 in aggregate to meet the cost of preparing and funding
applications for planning permission and environmental permits of the initial
demonstration unit and first five PHE Waste-to-Energy G3-UHt systems.

The agreement will require PowerHouse to supply five systems at locations of
the partners' choosing on a prioritised basis, based upon the completion of UK
Certifications and demonstration of the G3-UHt unit in active operation.

Keith Allaun, Executive Chairman of PowerHouse, said: "It is gratifying and
reassuring to have attracted a significant and large corporate partner to work
with PHE and Waste2tricity Ltd in rolling out Distributed Modular Gasification©
in the UK. DMG systems allow for the environmentally responsible conversion of
waste into electricity and the creation of distributed hydrogen for commercial
uses. This event marks a turning point in the commercial development of the
Company. Our engineering team continues to meet its objectives and we look
forward to the public demonstration of the G3-UHt system in the coming
period."

[whatsthepoint] 08/10/2018 19:27

Hypothetically let's say 1. they get third party verification and it proves to be from a well respected international company well removed from the business and its positive.2 shortly after there is news of a first order for the first of a kind new plant co-located at a major waste processing company who has the feedstocks and they are happy to pay a decent gate fee say £80 and take the electricity produced above national grid feed in tariff say £65 a mwh plus some heat? 3.that on completion of the FOAK plant operational and successful their is evidence of numerous other orders from well know waste management operators of incinerators and recycling plant operators with surplus waste end of life plastic. 4. The government accept that in order to combat the rising tide of waste plastic they agree to reclassify waste plastic as on a par to recycling. What price would you doubters put on the company if all that happened in the next couple of months as it surely could!!

[money maker1] 08/10/2018 19:23

nobby, We didn't get a chance to check my price prediction for IMM, since it was predicated on the obvious assumption of a successful Phase 3, which did not occur. Incidentally I read you many critiques about IMM pre-results but was not one of those who posted anything derogatory in response, so hope you can show me the same courtesy here.

[spawny100] 08/10/2018 19:16

....along with English Longbow, toptips and others infamous on the IMM thread for incessant ramping. Hmmm.......

[nobbygnome] 08/10/2018 19:03

No of course there is no similarity. I was just commenting on your previous ability to predict price rises 😜....

[money maker1] 08/10/2018 18:58

There is no read across between IMM, a failed pharma; and PHE, a waste to energy business, which is about to hit the growth stage of the J curve.

Incidentally IMM had a market cap of £200 just before their drug failed Phase 3, whereas PHE are currently just £7m, so have all the upside ahead.

On that basis PHE should already be 25x the current share price.

[nobbygnome] 08/10/2018 18:53

Hmmmm, I somehow doubt it.... I wonder if your predictions here will be as good as your ones for IMM?

[money maker1] 08/10/2018 18:51

Apparently its not just Toyota who are interested in PHE's DMG system but other multinationals as well.

Could be over 15p on engineering approval later this month.

Bit like an oil company that suddenly has a very large find worth billions, except PHE are derisked by the fact the engineering has already gone through a feedback and improvement process to get to this point and PHE are environmentally friendly. I don't see how anyone would go into oil now.

[nobbygnome] 08/10/2018 18:46

Yes and it seems Xencor are going to make similar mistakes to IMM. I actually know one of the senior guys there so perhaps I will get in contact with him....

[supernumerary] 08/10/2018 18:35

Past experience ;¬) If KA had anything more to brag about, he'd do it. Anyway, time will tell, as always.

PS I see another lupus trial failed. It would be funny if it weren't so sad. Link on the IMM thread.

[nobbygnome] 08/10/2018 18:11

>> sn

How do you possibly know that there hasn't been further contact?

[tewkesbury] 08/10/2018 18:10

Pretty good presentation from PHE a few days ago:



I think there is another this Thursday.

Starting to spread the word.

[supernumerary] 08/10/2018 17:57

Well I've already posted twice on that back when it first emerged and I've not been issued with a writ yet. It looked decidedly fishy to me then, and still does now. PHE's 'relationship' with Toyota doesn't seem to consist of anything more than a few meetings between W2T's Bulgarian rep in Japan and a Toyota subsidiary. If you know more, do tell.

[nobbygnome] 08/10/2018 17:48

>> supernumerary

I was referring mainly to your 'Bulgarian friends' comment. That seems libellous to me....

[blewco] 08/10/2018 17:13

supernumerary. There must have been some very understanding teachers at your school. Please don't write any instructions for anything, putting in the wrong word could prove dangerous.

[nobbygnome] 08/10/2018 16:55

Oh look, it mentions gate fees....

[nobbygnome] 08/10/2018 16:55

The presentation from the Shares meeting last week for your delectation....

[nobbygnome] 08/10/2018 16:46

>> supernumerary

And your evidence for all that is? Or is it all just IYHO? I would be careful if I was you....

[nobbygnome] 08/10/2018 16:44

As wtp says above it couldn't be below 0.5p anyway so certainly not tomorrow!

And I was not the slightest surprised that IMM did the fund raising and I said so at the time. It made perfect sense in that case.

[supernumerary] 08/10/2018 16:42

shrout - no, I'm just being correct - it's you who was trying to split a hair, and got it wrong. I wouldn't have bothered if you hadn't tried to pontificate...

blewco - despair all you like, it still wouldn't be a spelling mistake :) Do you really understand so little about language?

Jak - so much of what KA says has been proven to be blathering nonsense, it's hard to know where his grip on the truth starts and ends. I start from the assumption that everything he says is untrue until independently confirmed. This, for instance, is from the July AGM statement:

"While our intent was to have our first commercial facility operational by the end of 2018, lead time delays in material acquisition and operational financing have now made that unlikely."

I don't believe KA ever thought for an instant that they'd have a commercial facility operational by the end of 2018 - it was a ludicrous proposition; the failure to achieve that clearly has nothing to do with lead times on materials; and it was never even remotely possible, so to call it 'unlikely' is disingenuous at best, but in my view actually an outright lie.

And as far as I can see the Toyota connection is complete fabulation, based on some tenuous connection through KA's Bulgarian friends.

It just never ends.

[whatsthepoint] 08/10/2018 16:36

Correct Verification will stabilise the ship and loads more buyers who have been sitting on the fence will consider adding as will those that sold out on delays.. Even some of the negative doubters will undoubtably see the huge potential for very big gains and under their breath they will be quietly accumulating.. Be prepared to pay much higher prices than where we are at the moment.

[spawny100] 08/10/2018 16:35

Just remember Nobby nobody expected the £10 million raise prior to P3 results at IMM either! Anything can, and does, happen on AIM unfortunately. I'm still in here but wary.