Looks like the UK is drifting behind. |
The hydrogen economy is already launched.
It is not irrelevent to post that as the first off:, NIKOLA , quoted on NASDAQ, sold and supplied 82 hydrogen-electric trucks in California in October and that pumps are now available 24hrs/day in N and S CA as well as at Walmart ONTARIO ,to ensure availability for West Coast traders..
The vehicles supplement hydrogen power from the fuel stack for acceleration up hills and capture energy through regenerative braking and driversh rave how much they prefer H2 to diesel..
I believe I once read that the hydrogen power comes from Bosch built fuel cells under license from CERES (CWR) in the UK. |
Time for the share price to warm up in anticipation of imminent events . Peeps will surely want in |
![](https://images.advfn.com/static/default-user.png) Tenapen and Smokey
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Mr Patxaren over on the LSE forum mentioned about urging our local MP’s to take a look at what Powerhouse can offer. I did the same thing but sent my letter to Sarah Jones MP after watching her speech in Parliament talking about hydrogen amongst other things. She is Minister of State at both the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero, and the Department for Business and Trade. I did ask for confirmation that she had received my letter but as of yet I have had nothing back. I’m confident she already knows about Powerhouse though as she certainly knows about Protos.
sarah.jones.mp@parliament.uk |
Think its now or never . Next couple of months could be BIG |
The window of opportunity is closing fast, don't miss out… |
A nice rise for Powerhouse / Engsolve on the first day of dealing in 2025.
Thanks for the wealth transfer :-)
Mushrooms with raspberry pi only |
Tougher rules to restrict new waste incinerators
This can only be good news for PHE. To much plastic being burned to create electricity. Good Quote:- With 49% of waste collected now incinerated, this is having a negative effect on the climate because increasing amounts of plastic, made from fossil fuels, are being thrown away and burned, releasing large amounts of carbon dioxide. This Labour party could be a good thing for PHE, and I'm not a supporter.:-) |
Prove the technology and the world will come . Not long to wait now |
graham - Isn't that what the Australian Feed already underway is all about? |
Good news for PHE . Time they shouted from the rafters to grab opportunities from todays news . Good tests and we could be in for a very big year |
Going down. |
Market cap still way too high for such a small company with little revenue and hoping to rely on licensing. How much are they expecting to make per license bearing in mind there is no current working model or what the cost of a full blown system should it work. |
Last minute Christmas present |
I'm looking forward to the barbecue of shorters next year, nice and crispy! |
Unfortunately hydrogen in the UK isn’t really taking off like other countries. UK governments are led and financed by oil companies.
The only alternative for PHE is to produce electricity from the syngas as it stands which may not be economically viable given all the investment in wind and solar. |
Morning Vatna,
Whilst you are correct in the facts you present, there is one thing that you haven’t taken into account. All that stuff has happened in the past and the reason it hadn’t progressed is because the hydrogen economy wasn’t ready, that’s why Peel pulled out. The future however is now looking very different. There are things going on in my line of work which I can’t mention that suggests a very different story going forward. All I can say is watch this space. |
![](https://images.advfn.com/static/default-user.png) I think Protos is dead in the water.
It was certainly a fantastic initiative of Peel's initially to have a "Plastic Park" where all forms of plastic could be sorted into recyclable and non-recyclable, where the recyclable plastic could be recycled, and the non-recyclable converted into syngas and/or electricity and/or hydrogen. But so far it hasn't worked. The required infrastructure hasn't been built and very few of the sites have been taken up.
Peel were going to build a hydrogen refuelling station for the trucks and other vehicles that would be using the site. But that hasn't happened. Then there was going to be a carbon capture system to be used by all of the businesses on the site, with a network pumping the CO2 into dead oil wells in Liverpool Bay. That hasn't happened so far, although it may still be on the cards sometime.
Initially Peel were going to build a DMG on Plot 10B in the Protos Park and operate it, and pay a technology fee of £500k per annum to PHE. They were going to build a DMG on 11 of their Parks!! They actually got planning permission for the DMG at Protos, and also permission for one on Clydeside in Scotland. But the local population at Clydeside organised a protest because they feared the DMG would pollute the atmosphere, because they believed it was really an incinerator. The protestors were supported by the Sottish Greens and Friends of the Earth as well as the SNP Scottish government, so in the end Peel gave up and withdrew the planning application.
At Protos, Peel decided they didn't want to put up their own money to build a DMG so they sought funding. That failed. Then a 50/50 JV was established between Peel and PHE, and they both went out looking for funding. That also failed. Then PHE acquired 100% of the JV company at Protos so that they could be in control of their own destiny, with an option to lease Plot 10B from Peel to install a DMG. But they were unable to get a feedstock contract from any waste management company, and they were unable to get an off-take agreement for the hydrogen, so they were unable to raise the required funding.
And that's where PHE's Protos project stands today. They still own 100% of the JV company, they still have planning permission unless it has expired, and they still have an option to lease Plot 14B from Peel. There is no infrastructure on Plot 14B, and no plant & machinery associated with the project. But it is a registered company called "Protos Plastics to Hydrogen No.1 Limited".
There needs to be more waste management companies taking up Plots in the Protos Plastic Park before PHE can contemplate starting any form of construction. At the moment the whole Park seems to be in limbo and I'm not convinced that is going to change any time soon. That's why I keep saying forget Protos, there are several better opportunities for PHE elsewhere that are more likely to become the FOAK for PHE.
Here's a link to the Protos Park web site. |
Is protos on the list? |