Powerhouse Energy Share Discussion Threads

[beeezzz] 08/8/2017 18:00

deccer1...

I'm not sure whether lower temperature will be a significant factor, however, in the case of Westinghouse's there is obviously an issue with the ceramic lining which is unable to withstand 3000ºC.

As another poster said, oxygen in recycle material is the problem, it maybe that PHE use a two stage approach on a lower temperature and then very high.

My interest is recycling of the ½ million Tons of tyres we dispose of each year, as I've said before they will need 55 machines just to cope with tyres, cost of recycling tyres is expensive, PHE would also provide power for crumbing and incinerating into hydrogen feed through a FC...Its all hypothetical until the G3 is up and running.

[deccer1] 08/8/2017 10:26

beeezzz #4722
Thanks for that information about Westinghouse's issues with their plasma gasification system at Teeside.

Could the fact that Westinghouse's plasma system is said to run at a higher temperature (3000 degrees) than PHE's (<2000 degrees) have added to Westinghouse's technical problems and might these therefore be less of an issue for PHE or doesnt it make any difference?

What about recent developments in materials science?

3 minutes 50 seconds into the Vox markets interview on 1/8/2017 PHE's Exec Chairman Keith Allaun said

“If one looks at some of the things that have happened in the industry and in materials science, 3 years ago components of the G3 unit didn’t exist, various materials that we are able to use now that resist the corrosive effects of ultra high temperature, and we are now able to utilise in the G3.”

www.audioboom.com/posts/6164353-keith-allaun-executive-chairman-of-powerhouse-energy-phe-1st-august-2017

We know PHE ran a technically successful G3 demonstration in Australia, then moved it to the UK where they made further improvements and had it running again last week producing syngas apparently without major problems. Obviously they now have to scale up the size so not quite there yet.


Another point ----

12 minutes 15 seconds into the interview, KA said

“Now is the time for people to get onboard” ---- presumably he means shareholders?

Conversley did he thus mean that with hindsight, previously it was not the time to get onboard but now is the time, thus vindicating some of the recent negativity on discussion boards?

As ever do your own research and be prepared to modify your views with new material information.

[scrutable] 08/8/2017 09:05

warwick your reactions are as expected emotional rather than rational and completely uncomprehending. You are a complete waste of time as well as very dangerous

[scrutable] 08/8/2017 08:47

warwick

You see this situation in terms of black and white. You write about the testing and development as though it were 100% certain, which is complete nonsense. It is in fact dreadfully misleading for new investors and that's why I find it very irresponsible of you to blast away with repeat assertions that everything is certain to succeed.

I am a mathematician by training and associate all future financial events with levels of possibility or probability. I see a small probability of the Donald being assassinated, and can hope for it just as I hope that PHE will be successful - but it's only a possibility, for which an actuary can give a closer value than I can. I can easily be hit by a motor car (say 0.1%?), but am more likely just to fall and break a bone (10%?). You don't need to know me to see the difference. Neither is certain - or on the contrary, improbable.

For the moment I am a rash investor in PHE but my portfolio is balanced by 20 other shares much more likely to succeed. Yet with you, I know that IF and it's a big IF the outcome for PHE is successful, PHE has a very high value possible outcome worth billions, but unlike you I think very unlikely to succeed until the possibility (IMO only 2-5%) is increased by encouraging production tests.

£ x Billions times 2% is still a big number, which is why I am still holding, but not increasing the stake.

Very little is known to have happened since the test rig arrived in Chester. The probability of success will not have shifted upwards by more than a tiny fraction which will have come from confidence that there has been some positive activity and an absence of damaging news.

I hope that this piece affects your perspective by a small amount. I cannot even be certain of that.

[superbarnet] 07/8/2017 21:25

This is gathering momentum and is getting good press and tips.