Physiomics Share Discussion Threads

[obiterdicta] 10/6/2018 20:49

PWhite73 - you are contradicting yourself in the same post. You say there is no % risk, it will go to 1p. Yet later on you say unless something like November 2017 happens again.

Well surely you must apply a % probability of a big leap in SP, as it has happened before.

Anyway if you can't deal with reasoned and logical debate, you will lose money as you are showing signs of cognitive bias, in particular confirmation bias. You need to adjust your views against new information to succeed.

ATB

OD

[hope67] 10/6/2018 20:42

Think you missed the revenue that is coming in this year Pwhite so add that to the recent placing don't think they will need money for a while and you just never know a contract might just surprise you.

[pwhite73] 10/6/2018 20:19

OBD - "I would accept that there is a percentage risk of the share price being 1p"

There is no percentage risk involved because that is not how the AIM markets work today. PYC is an illiquid stock. What that means is that the company can only raise money through the markets by selling shares to mug punters at increasingly lower prices.

Read what GUSS posted earlier - "If they do drop down to below 2p I might chuck a couple of grand at them."

Nobody is going to be buying at today's prices when the last placing was at 4p. The company can start shifting stock to the likes of GUSS at 2p and then announce a placing at a 50% discount at 1p so that people like GUSS who thought they were clever buying at 2p get pickled.

Today the nomads/brokers are permanently book building meaning constantly feeding discounted shares into the markets 08:00 - 16:30 five days a week. No matter what price you buy at you will lose money unless something like what happened in November 2017 takes place. Sit still and they will roast you.

[obiterdicta] 10/6/2018 17:21

PWhite73 - you are a charlatan. You don't know that the share price will be 1p in 12 months time. It is a known unknown.

You have lost all credibility with that statement.

Have a read of Super-forecasting. People who are excellent at forecasting ascribe percentages to possible outcomes. They would then move those percentages when facts become known.

Take a look at Bayes theorem.

I would accept that there is a percentage risk of the share price being 1p in 12 months time, but only an absolute arrogant idiot would put that risk at 100% like you do.

OD

[howdlep] 10/6/2018 16:43

PWhite7310 Jun '18 - 10:58 - 3200 of 3207

howdlep - "I think Joe Mug did rather well."

If my memory serves me correct the rise was not 1600% but 3200%. From 1p to 32p. But you won't find a single Joe Mug Punter claiming to have made any money out of the November rise other than spivs and liars like 'cudmore'.

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What I actually said in post 3199 was:-

"Does a 1600%+ rise (EOD, I will save you from the intra day highs!) in November drop into the continual fall category?

I think Joe Mug did rather well."

My apologies if you do not understand the difference between an end of day (EOD) and an intra day highs.

A move from 1p to 16p gave EVERYONE the opportunity to sell shares on the way up. It is not for me to comment on why people anyone, if indeed there was anyone, did not take some/all profits along the way.
As for the intra rise to 32p, those not watching the screen all day, could easily have set limit sells.

For my part, I am once again long of PYC. Are you PWhite73, long, short or just an educator for those who perceive to be "Joe Mug" punters?

Or maybe you are a continued paid troll?
If so, I am happy to have thrown in a few coins for you. After all, trolls get paid for engaging comment do they not?

All that said, I suspect you do not class yourself as a "Joe Mug" punter, as you will have benefited from the 1p to 32p rise?

Let us see who is right in the future. 2p or 6p next for the share price?

As I have stated, I own shares in PYC and am transparent. Now let's see you say 2p before 6p.

[pwhite73] 10/6/2018 15:31

OBD

The current share price does not represent or misrepresent any value. The current share price is where mug punters are buying in order to support the next placing. The value of an AIM company and its share price completely divorced about 5 years ago. When was the last time you heard the term Price Earnings Ratio applied to an AIM stock.

It cannot be that PYC was worth 32p per share in December 2017 valuing the company at £19 million and today the placing has valued the same company at just £2.8 million. Where has £16 million of value disappeared to in the space of seven months.

You may not know where the share price will be in one years time but I certainly do. It will be back to 1p and this time it will stay there because mug punters are not going to be fooled again (he thinks!!).

I have stated before and I'll say so again if it had not been for the November 2017 frenzy I believe PYC would have sought to exit from the AIM.

[obiterdicta] 10/6/2018 14:27

PWhite73 - in order to be successful you need to show a bit more humility.

The market is not efficient and therefore the current share price may or may not represent value. In that respect you don't understand any more or any less than anyone else.

You have no idea where share price will be in 1 year's time. Neither do I.

OD

[guss] 10/6/2018 14:11

Oh well, now you are confusing me, and probably others as well. “You can see clearer more than anybody else”?

It should be clear, I just stated the facts. And also congratulated you on your logic and research. I did not intend to confuse or mislead anyone.
No one is right all the time. Not even you.

[pwhite73] 10/6/2018 14:02

Thanks for clearing that up. And no it doesn't confuse me. I understand what is going on more than anybody else who posts on this thread.

[guss] 10/6/2018 13:55

Well, as it’s only happened once, I was talking about just before last Christmas 2017.
And you are right again, November is before Christmas, or a long time after the previous Christmas, I hope that does not confuse you LOL.

[pwhite73] 10/6/2018 13:50

GUSS

You have lost me and many with your post. Which Xmas are you talking about 2016 or 2017 You then go onto say "A week or so later the share price had gone from 0.9p to 32p"

The share price went from 09p to 32p in November 2017 so some 48 weeks after Xmas 2016 and some 4 weeks before Xmas 2017.

[guss] 10/6/2018 13:40

For a more balanced view of the recent rise and fall of the share price I always read PWhites comments as they appear to me as well researched, polite and intelligent comments, always welcomed, but in this case not completely accurate.

My experience of PYC over the past ten years, I think, it sure seems like that:
I have profited in 3 out of the last 4 emotional price rises and missed the the boat at least once.

Just before Christmas I looked at my 100,000 PYC shares, they had cost me over £7000 due to averaging down over the years but they were only worth £900. I considered cutting my loses and taking the £900 to spend on Christmas, or adding another £900 to the pot and doubling my holding. Luckily, and sadly, I did nothing.

A week or so later the share price had gone from 0.9p to 32p. Having been in the red for 99% of the time that I held these shares I sold some of them at 12p ish more at 23p on the way up and then at 18p on the way down and then finally, after a few days of pondering if I should buy more, I sold the last of my holding at about 7p.

Maybe I’m one of the lucky ones but I had no problem selling, they were gobbled up and I received £24k approx from the sale, although this did include my original stake which to be honest I had written off.

I’m still watching these but I don’t want to be locked in for another 10 years, not with £7k worth anyway. If they do drop down to below 2p I might chuck a couple of grand at them.

I think PWhite is probably right about the AIM way of funding a company, as close to a scam as you can get. But you can sell on a rise, for whatever reason, at least I did 😁

[pwhite73] 10/6/2018 10:58

howdlep - "I think Joe Mug did rather well."

If my memory serves me correct the rise was not 1600% but 3200%. From 1p to 32p. But you won't find a single Joe Mug Punter claiming to have made any money out of the November rise other than spivs and liars like 'cudmore'.

The MM can run any shares up to the skies when there is a buying frenzy the trick is to get out with any profit. You may wish to investigate why the shares were 32p back in November and with so much positive activity they done a placing at a miserly 4p.

What I'm saying about the company and the shares is correct, honest and truthful.

[howdlep] 10/6/2018 10:15

PWhite7310 Jun '18 - 09:55 - 3198 of 3198

"The only people effected by the continual fall in the share price is Joe Mug Punter."

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Does a 1600%+ rise (EOD, I will save you from the intra day highs!) in November drop into the continual fall category?

I think Joe Mug did rather well.

But what was it you said earlier?

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PWhite738 Jun '18 - 22:42 - 3193 of 3196

You can't bully or scare me out of speaking the truth about PYC shareprice.

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You will have to forgive me if I don't run off.

[pwhite73] 10/6/2018 09:55

howdlep - "The Board of Directors should decide whether that statement libels all shareholders."

Well allow me to decide for them . It does not libel all shareholders because the directors are shareholders, the nomads are shareholders, the brokers are shareholders, the market makers are shareholders, the bucket shops are shareholders. The only people effected by the continual fall in the share price is Joe Mug Punter.

Now be off you little scamp.

[howdlep] 10/6/2018 09:35

PWhite738 Jun '18 - 19:31 - 3189 of 3196

The sells you are witnessing today is the next placing being forward sold to even bigger mug punters at 2p.

howdlep8 Jun '18 - 22:24 - 3192 of 3196

I suggest you take more care with your allegations and correct statements you know to be incorrect.

PWhite738 Jun '18 - 22:42 - 3193 of 3196

You can't bully or scare me out of speaking the truth about PYC shareprice.


PWhite738 Jun '18 - 23:43 - 3195 of 3196

Being subject to such defamatory accusations is par the course for enticing thousands of shareholders to invest in your company with the promise of riches.

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Clearly, you intend to continue with your defamation of the company. This despite my request in post 3192 for you not to do so.

Your comment in post 3195 is truly astonishing. The Board of Directors should decide whether that statement libels all shareholders.

[spacedust] 10/6/2018 01:22

But I've been saying worse....such as calling them wakners. Cunningham.

It's mug punters like me who are buying. I can admit it I have no shame in doing so. But this pile of dogshtttt needs a miracle for most to even dream of breaking even now. 32p to 4p disgrace

[pwhite73] 08/6/2018 23:43

You've got your wires all crossed. If you log into a bulletin board for medics and accuse a surgeon of killing a patient due to negligence you could easily find yourself on a libel charge. If you log into a bulletin board for shares and accuse a director of killing a company due to negligence is a different matter all together.

Being subject to such defamatory accusations is par the course for enticing thousands of shareholders to invest in your company with the promise of riches.

[obiterdicta] 08/6/2018 23:03

Having direct professional experience of defamation cases a bulletin board post counts as a piblication.Anyone bringong a case has to prove serious harm.The writer has to prove truth or alternativey have qualified or absolute privilege.If you publish an untrue statement you run the risk of a defamation claim.OD

[pwhite73] 08/6/2018 22:42

howdlep - "The company may consider those statements to be libellous."

1. Something being untrue does not make it libellous if it is an honestly held belief, for which I believe every single word I have said to be true. History has also proven me to be correct so far.

howdlep - "As for the TR1 remark, it is only true if an individual crosses 3% or another notifiable percentage."

The fact that there is no TR1 remark so far confirms my statement that the placing shares have been widely spread among mug punters over months starting from November 2017.

As far as libel is concerned a high court judge has already ruled bulletin board defamatory comments are more akin to saloon bar slander than libel.

You can't bully or scare me out of speaking the truth about PYC shareprice.

[howdlep] 08/6/2018 22:24

PWhite738 Jun '18 - 19:31 - 3189 of 3191

Wrong the placing shares just announced are already in the hands of mug punters at prices far higher than 4p that is why there is no TR1 RNS for the 22% increase in the number shares. The sells you are witnessing today is the next placing being forward sold to even bigger mug punters at 2p.

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For the above post to be correct, PWhite738 has to have knowledge of:-

1) another placing being in place
2) that that placing price has been set at 2p
3) the organising broker or an alternative third party, is allowing stock to be shorted ahead of those placing shares being admitted

The company may consider those statements to be libellous.

That said, shares could be shorted as per normal means.

As for the TR1 remark, it is only true if an individual crosses 3% or another notifiable percentage.

I suggest you take more care with your allegations and correct statements you know to be incorrect.

[spacedust] 08/6/2018 21:13

Pwhite the great
Jim cunningham the wakner
Founder the wakner

[pwhite73] 08/6/2018 19:31

Wrong the placing shares just announced are already in the hands of mug punters at prices far higher than 4p that is why there is no TR1 RNS for the 22% increase in the number shares. The sells you are witnessing today is the next placing being forward sold to even bigger mug punters at 2p.