Optibiotix Health Share Discussion Threads

[judijudi] 10/5/2017 11:22

Bob,
Why today's scenario strange?
It's been going on for weeks
Somebody relentlessly off loading and nobody buying = share price capitulation

[bobdown2] 10/5/2017 11:19

That's why I find the selling hard to reason. On aim the ideal time to invest is when a company is fully funded. Is on the the cusp of revenue streams and the share price does not reflect this. Unfortunately we do not seem to have found a bottom to this fall. And if we are exposed to the Berlin market then this listing should be closed as soon as. I find today's scenario extremely strange...

[bobdown2] 10/5/2017 10:10

The arrival of the FOUR recent companies is a testament to the posible future products and management.

[rafboy] 10/5/2017 10:08

Mike, we are on the same side here, hopefully we will both make a few quid.

[spike_1] 10/5/2017 10:02

raf: good for you.
I'm not for one second suggesting the management at OPTI is crooked (as at BPRG), I'm saying that like BPRG we are relying on SOH's word that we have something the market wants.

Yes the patents may indeed be watertight, but we know that there are very many gut microbe strains, so there may be better ones out there, although I do trust SOH on finding good ones with very large markets.

Best wishes - Mike

[riskybusiness1] 10/5/2017 09:59

4 figure loss? Wow. I never understand why people sell when the share price drops to its lowest for a while. When we talk about the market telling us something we're ignoring the fact that this 10k seller has taken us down pretty much single handed. I agree there is not much buying but if it was not for this seller we'd be at least in the 70's and the sentiment would be completely different and forward looking.

[rafboy] 10/5/2017 09:46

BPRG, a share I remember well as it cost me thousands. However, the management at BPRG were completely different to OPTI. I see OPTI as a genuine company with real deals being done and real products being sold. I cannot say the same for BPRG where, in my personal view, investors were taken on a ride that only helped them lose money.

Here SOH has shown himself to be approachable and open. He is knowledgeable and enthusiastic and you either believe in him and OPTI or you don't. Of course, I would love to see numbers when deals are announced but we know why this is not always possible. However, what we do have are water tight patents and real science being turned into products across many applications. I am holding on to my OPTI shares and I can tell you I am not blinkered after losing so much at BPRG. If anything, I am far more careful about where I invest my money.

[bobdown2] 10/5/2017 09:41

My take is slightly diferent. The persistent selling that has led to the falling share price has killed off the volume which will suddenly reappear when that selling has disappeared. I hope so anyway.

[spike_1] 10/5/2017 09:27

Mr 10k isn't (IMO) trying to sell 'at any price', if you watch 'his' trades, he does try to let the price rise before selling a few more. His problem is that there is no real buying momentum, and clearly - for whatever reason - he wants (or needs I suspect) his funds realised back into cash.

The alternative scenario is the Berlin Stock Exchange shorting (naked shorting?), but the action seems a little slow to me for that to be true, but it is none the less a viable scenario.

When discussed with SOH he said he was watching it carefully. Frankly I wouldn't expect him to say anything else, however he could have asked the exchange to de-list OPTI (I believe that is an option?), especially if he didn't ask for it to be listed.

However this is all purely speculation. I do agree with TT on a number of his points. The reality is that there is a lot of faith in SOH coming up with the goods, and it was exactly the same at BPRG.

Personally I only have 'faith' in the sugar product/s at this time, because everything else is / will be 'over the counter' and as such subject to the vagaries of the market, and the extent to which money is spent on promotion. Unless of course the pills / supplements are indeed 'wonder drugs', and potentially they may be.

As for being 'in it to win it', the lower it goes, the easier it will be to get back in without losing out massively (if at all) compared to those who stick with it.

As for 'don't fall in love .... etc' I can see here that this has happened, and it could not be more obvious in the 'group hug' posting 'mentality' of some here who do not question what the market is telling us.

I'm now down to 20% of my original holding (at a 4 figure loss), and feel much better for it. I'll certainly add more if and when there is a good reason to do so (I also still have about 60% of my SBTX because it has less far to fall and is unlikely to in the near term).

Best wishes - Mike

Edit: I am not mr 10k.

[slartybartfaster] 10/5/2017 09:10

Has anyone else noticed the tw has kept quiet on all things opti related. no update on opti after the lpldl launch. Probably sulking after being accused of ramping by elrico. Hope it stays this way.

[michaelmouse] 10/5/2017 09:04

I note from the main thread that someone must have stated that SOH doesn't care about the share price. LOL.

Please read my introduction to this thread (started in March 16). It's quite the opposite. SOH always refers to the share price in interviews and never potential revenues or profits (see point 1 in header).

This is a massive red flag. CEOs should just get on with the job of making the business work and the share price will follow. He never refers to the financials.

[judijudi] 10/5/2017 08:52

Afraid so mate
Coupled with no buying
Only going one way at the moment
imho

[judijudi] 10/5/2017 08:43

Here we go again :(

[siennadelekat21] 10/5/2017 08:38

Not very good at researching are you opodio?Sienna : )

[scotty1] 10/5/2017 07:44

opodio,stop making yourself look silly and do a bit of homework before you post.
Last placing was at 78p.

[opodio] 10/5/2017 07:37

valuation too high


loads of hot air and needs cash


last placing was 8p thats how far it could fall

[parob] 10/5/2017 07:34

Just a repost of Dalester's excellent post from the LSE bb back in March (he was responding to Percival/mazzstar):Having spent a number of years working in FMCG for Procter & Gamble, I didn't put my hard -earned in here to make a few quid from the first product in what looks to be developing as a massive portfolio of products suitable for addition to an vast range of products, many of which are currently unimaginable. For perspective, there are over 100 food and beverage producing companies in the UK and Ireland with turnovers of £100m or more. There are probably a1000 in the USA. and 10s of thousands around the world. Opti is not just producing a new yoghurt, or a new flavour, it is developing a whole new category of much-needed food and drink products which will have a lasting beneficial effect on the health of billions of people.Of course, distributors will be required, more-so than individual producers. Who in their right mind would allow a single company to gain exclusive use of a product capable of being licensed to 100s? Why would you put eggs as valuable as these in one basket? Think of any major food producer and you will recognise an opportunity to place OPTI products inside their tins, packets and bottles. "OPTI inside" will, in time, become as ubiquitous as "Intel Inside". Opti products offer huge differentiation to thousands of producers, all of whom spend millions advertising small changes in formulation or packaging and for whom there is genuinely little actual product difference. OPTI is a game changer. Getting started may be the equivalent of kick-starting a jumbo jet, but once it starts to roll down the runway it will eventually climb like an F15 on steroids.

[primal123] 10/5/2017 07:34

JH - the reason is you repeat the same stuff over and over again everyday and you are beginning to sound like TT. It gets boring.

[michaelmouse] 10/5/2017 07:26

From a technical point of view on the chart there appears to be nothing to prop the share price up after its inexplicable rise to its current heady market cap.

I'd guess that those sitting on profits have already put in "stop losses" which appears to be a popular practise for many. If that is the case then the falling share price will trigger many sells and where it stops is anybody's guess?

I'd imagine 60p may fail to hold and with it the stops triggered.

It's undoubtedly a bear sign when news, which was supposed to be positive, resulted in the share price falling by over 5%. Imagine the devastation with a RNS that is disappointing, and I mentioned a couple of possible near term examples yesterday.

Fascinating stuff anyway but as ever aimho, dyor etc.

[opodio] 09/5/2017 23:52

will it disappear into a puff of smoke?


placing soon enough 20p i suspect

[parob] 09/5/2017 23:18

This pre-launch agreement is another step in a business to business (B2B) strategy of bringing OptiBiotix's science together with partner's expertise and market reach to serve multiple consumer healthcare and pharmaceutical markets around the world.So we had a pre-launch licensing agreement and a pre-launch sale. Let's see what post-launch agreements and sales are announced over the next few weeks and months.

[john henry] 09/5/2017 23:15

Question someuwin whats your problem with post 23347 - 48 and why the ban ????